# Ramp test under achiever **URL:** \ **Category:** Training\ **Created:** [December 18, 2018, 12:15am UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/ramp-test-under-achiever/8092 "2018-12-18T00:15:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 24
**Author:** ![mcneese.chad](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/mcneese.chad/32/15056_2.png) [@mcneese.chad](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/mcneese.chad)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2019, 7:14pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/ramp-test-under-achiever/8092/24 "2019-01-07T19:14:13Z")
The “break even” point in the Ramp Test is at the 19:30 mark. If you have consistent power, that will be the point you match the FTP value at the start of the test. The thoughts you express lead me to a suggestion I am sharing throughout for the Ramp test: - Assuming you are on a smart trainer and using ERG mode, hide all data except cadence, and take the Ramp test. I think too many people fixate on the time and/or steps and end up bailing too soon. - I have done this myself by looking at power or heart rate that seems too much, and I give up, rather than going until true failure. Lately, I run the test in ERG from my phone, and just flip it over, run the test until I pop, and then look at the phone again. I hit my best result ever by doing it “blind”. Not everyone needs this approach, but seeing power or heart rate in particular start to mess with my mind in a test. I am better just staring at a video or chasing a wheel in Zwift and not thinking about numbers in any way. From [here](https://www.trainerroad.com/forumt/when-the-ramp-test-doesnt-track-well-to-ftp/3854/17). --- _[View the full topic](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/ramp-test-under-achiever/8092)._