# Polarized Training with Stephen Seiler, PhD | EP#177 That Triathlon Show

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**Created:** [April 15, 2019, 1:50pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/polarized-training-with-stephen-seiler-phd-ep-177-that-triathlon-show/14690 "2019-04-15T13:50:14Z")\
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On [Fast Talk episode 54](https://www.trainerroad.com/forumt/polarized-training-discussion-fast-talk-podcast-flo-cycling-podcast/1766/84), Dr Seiler said (loosely transcribed, not direct quotes):

- roughly 80% of 60 min for zone 2 bottom / zone 1 top. That gets you in the ballpark, if its too high adjust down. Most of the rides will be 60% or 70% so there is a margin of error. Be conservative and don’t overestimate your ftp.
- most people over estimate their ftp
- get off your a\*\* and really do a 60 min power test

For myself, it is roughly 60-70% ftp (and ~72% of HRmax) and the “talk test” or “first deep breath test” are likely better ways of determining your LT1/VT1 (and then riding under it).

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