# No power meter for outdoor training **URL:** \ **Category:** Training\ **Tags:** power-meter\ **Created:** [December 1, 2020, 10:35pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/no-power-meter-for-outdoor-training/47880 "2020-12-01T22:35:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 6\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Ampslave](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/ampslave/32/63277_2.png) [@Ampslave](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/Ampslave)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2020, 10:35pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/no-power-meter-for-outdoor-training/47880/1 "2020-12-01T22:35:42Z")
Advice please. I really want to follow a plan but I don’t have an indoor trainer or power meter. The trainer isn’t a problem, I’m happy(ish) to do outdoor rides but no power meter isn’t so good as the workouts ask you to maintain different power levels. How can I do this without a power meter and just a heart rate monitor? Thanks guys. ---
**Author:** ![mcneese.chad](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/mcneese.chad/32/15056_2.png) [@mcneese.chad](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/mcneese.chad)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2020, 10:45pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/no-power-meter-for-outdoor-training/47880/2 "2020-12-01T22:45:31Z")
Here are two relevant guides, for doing TR workouts outside, without power data: > **[Outside Workouts](https://support.trainerroad.com/hc/en-us/articles/360024352332-Outside-Workouts)** > > Outside workouts allow you to substitute an outside equivalent for your regularly scheduled TrainerRoad workouts. > Why Outside Workouts? > The key to getting faster is structured training.  Since most... > **[RPE Key Explained](https://support.trainerroad.com/hc/en-us/articles/360021324932-RPE-Key-Explained)** > > Rate of Perceived Exertion (RPE) refers to a 1-10 scale to self-report the intensity of an effort. > Our RPE scale is based largely on Matt Fitzgerald's running and swimming RPE scale. We use it beca... ---
**Author:** ![Ampslave](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/ampslave/32/63277_2.png) [@Ampslave](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/Ampslave)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2020, 10:47pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/no-power-meter-for-outdoor-training/47880/3 "2020-12-01T22:47:04Z")
Thanks Chad! ---
**Author:** ![brendanhousler](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/brendanhousler/32/11363_2.png) [@brendanhousler](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/brendanhousler)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2020, 12:49pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/no-power-meter-for-outdoor-training/47880/4 "2020-12-04T12:49:52Z")
that is going to be tough, especially since most new riders need time to adapt to executing intervals on the road; rollers, using the gears properly, etc. I’d start saving and look to buy a used Stages or something for about $300. Try to get in the power game! Good luck! ---
**Author:** ![magnetnerd](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/magnetnerd/32/18990_2.png) [@magnetnerd](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/magnetnerd)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2020, 3:19pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/no-power-meter-for-outdoor-training/47880/5 "2020-12-04T15:19:59Z")
I also train without a power meter but would love to add one. The problem is I don’t think I’ll keep my bike very long into 2021 (looking to upgrade), so I don’t want to get one that works with this bike and doesn’t work with FutureBike. Any suggestions on where to buy a used power meter? ---
**Author:** ![brendanhousler](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/brendanhousler/32/11363_2.png) [@brendanhousler](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/brendanhousler)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2020, 4:09pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/no-power-meter-for-outdoor-training/47880/6 "2020-12-04T16:09:01Z")
Facebook has online Swap Meet and eBay. A stages will work on most bikes but check the site for details. I am no expert in compatibility. Good luck! Lol “FutureBike” Brendan John Housler [EVOQ.BIKE](https://www.evoq.bike/) - Get Our [Newsletter](http://eepurl.com/ggRc4n) [Strava](https://www.strava.com/athletes/5889) [LinkedIn](https://www.linkedin.com/in/brendanhousler/)