# New TR Feature.... What is @Nate Testing Out šŸ¤” **URL:** \ **Category:** Training\ **Created:** [March 21, 2019, 2:54am UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/new-tr-feature-what-is-nate-testing-out/13592 "2019-03-21T02:54:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![dhellman](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/dhellman/32/5964_2.png) [@dhellman](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/dhellman)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2019, 4:28pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/new-tr-feature-what-is-nate-testing-out/13592/41 "2019-03-21T16:28:18Z")
> [@bbarrera](#): > > pan flat here too, but a lot of windā€¦ makes it harder to hit target into a headwind, and easier with a tailwind. Funny. I did a sweet-spot workout on Tuesday, and going into the headwind was far easier to hit power targets than with the tailwind. At one point I was going ~28 mph and only putting out about 50% FTP when I should have been doing ~90%. I almost ALWAYS prefer to try to hit my power targets with the headwind, and have the rest interval with the tailwind, but the 12ā€™ work intervals/6ā€™ rest intervals didnā€™t really allow for that for all three efforts. ---
**Author:** ![cendres](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/cendres/32/87546_2.png) [@cendres](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/cendres)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2019, 4:32pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/new-tr-feature-what-is-nate-testing-out/13592/42 "2019-03-21T16:32:27Z")
Same here, too. I think there are a handful of nearby farmers that wonder why the weird guy in spandex is riding back and forth on their stretch of road. ---
**Author:** ![bbarrera](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/bbarrera/32/14734_2.png) [@bbarrera](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/bbarrera)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2019, 4:49pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/new-tr-feature-what-is-nate-testing-out/13592/43 "2019-03-21T16:49:45Z")
> [@dhellman](#): > > At one point I was going ~28 mph and only putting out about 50% FTP when I should have been doing ~90% Endurance bike, if needed, sitting up from time-to-time to catch wind. Here is one: ![36%20AM](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/original/2X/7/74096e2c80906e7584dfdc5e98b9e3486eaec642.png) Wind SSW 13mph gusting 20mph. 5 intervals about 12 minutes each, easier to see if TR would let me control averaging/smoothing. Blue /aqua line is speed, fair bit of time 23-28mph. Some caveats: the first two intervals I dropped off the back and was solo going South and West, fighting crosswinds. The 3rd interval is a mix of cross and tailwinds. The 4th and 5th intervals we are coming back into town and dealing with cars, sharp turns, and stop lights. Ok, Iā€™ll call it even on that ride and say almost no difference hitting power targets between headwind / tailwind. @dhellman how was the Auburn crit? You raced later in the day IIRC. ---
**Author:** ![mattymurda](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/mattymurda/32/12908_2.png) [@mattymurda](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/mattymurda)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2019, 4:50pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/new-tr-feature-what-is-nate-testing-out/13592/44 "2019-03-21T16:50:35Z")
After [reviewing this page](https://blog.wahoofitness.com/how-to-use-planned-workouts-on-your-elemnt/), Iā€™m optimistic that TR would be working on an integration with both Wahoo & Garmin head units. Obviously, we donā€™t know what kind of deal TP has worked out with Wahoo that might see this as a conflict of interest, but it would be a huge miss if they only released this on one device. ---
**Author:** ![Mattbombhead](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/mattbombhead/32/13276_2.png) [@Mattbombhead](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/Mattbombhead)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2019, 5:03pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/new-tr-feature-what-is-nate-testing-out/13592/45 "2019-03-21T17:03:08Z")
Having read all o Frye comments above, I really canā€™t see that TR will be doing anything with TP - the most recent releases and updates have mainly been providing functionality that TP Premium provides in one way or another, but tailored to the TR fraternity. As for what it ā€˜couldā€™ be, Iā€™ve absolutely no idea, but Iā€™m excited to find outā€¦ ---
**Author:** ![dhellman](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/dhellman/32/5964_2.png) [@dhellman](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/dhellman)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2019, 5:09pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/new-tr-feature-what-is-nate-testing-out/13592/46 "2019-03-21T17:09:39Z")
Yeah, looks fairly familiar. ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/original/2X/3/3acb6d098188112e6e0dac79628e4ba3ef2ada70.png) Yellow is cadence. I was trying to keep a minimum rpm of 85 rpm, but that was almost impossible with the tailwindā€“I had to just keep bumping into a higher gear to try to achieve power. You probably have a more unlimited stretch of road than I doā€“I have a ~4.5 mile stretch between a stoplight and a stop sign. I can keep going, particularly after the stop sign, but I generally prefer to keep it within that stretch. @cendres, I frequently wonder about what the farmers think about me as wellā€¦ or the people who are waiting for the bus along this same stretch. We have a lot of cyclists out here, and theyā€™re prevalent on this road, but usually theyā€™re just going one way, not out and back and out and back and out and backā€¦ šŸ˜œ @bbarrera, even though I was registered for Auburn, I didnā€™t do it. I won the Red Kite omnium for my category last year, and the prize was free entry for the entire year this year. I couldnā€™t make Auburn because itā€™s 3+ hours away and I couldnā€™t justify the 6 hours of driving for a 40 min crit, plus I had personal obligations that day as well. And now Red Kite is no longer going to be USAC/NCNCA, so itā€™s highly unlikely Iā€™ll do any others. ---
**Author:** ![Upanddown480](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/upanddown480/32/7725_2.png) [@Upanddown480](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/Upanddown480)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2019, 5:15pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/new-tr-feature-what-is-nate-testing-out/13592/47 "2019-03-21T17:15:39Z")
I wonder if we will see this new feature released with a possible new Garmin 530. IT would make sense that a new garmin would be released in Sea Otter and include TR integration as part of the new features. ---
**Author:** ![bbarrera](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/bbarrera/32/14734_2.png) [@bbarrera](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/bbarrera)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2019, 5:28pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/new-tr-feature-what-is-nate-testing-out/13592/48 "2019-03-21T17:28:02Z")
would be nice to see TR embrace outdoors and over time offer more integration with head units. Looking forward to episode 200! ---
**Author:** ![moshecattan](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/moshecattan/32/153469_2.png) [@moshecattan](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/moshecattan)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2019, 5:46pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/new-tr-feature-what-is-nate-testing-out/13592/49 "2019-03-21T17:46:10Z")
@dhellman @bbarrera Personally headwind is easierā€¦ I run 50/34 w/12-25 in back on the roadie yeah donā€™t ask but it works. With tailwind I could spin out on light downhills but usually sit up in that case to get as much wind as possibleā€¦ again obviously you need to have a stretch of road to do this which is tough lol > [@cendres](#): > > Same here, too. I think there are a handful of nearby farmers that wonder why the weird guy in spandex is riding back and forth on their stretch of road. šŸ¤£šŸ¤£šŸ¤£ ---
**Author:** ![shawrx](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/shawrx/32/83816_2.png) [@shawrx](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/shawrx)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2019, 11:53pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/new-tr-feature-what-is-nate-testing-out/13592/50 "2019-03-21T23:53:12Z")
Awesome. Am I gonna need to upgrade my old school Edge 520 for this? ---
**Author:** ![Harts](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/harts/32/7746_2.png) [@Harts](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/Harts)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2019, 7:11am UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/new-tr-feature-what-is-nate-testing-out/13592/51 "2019-03-22T07:11:44Z")
![PNG](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/original/2X/7/7635e14475b71d196fb74be86dc75182f127ed5b.jpeg) ![IMG_1633](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/original/2X/2/24858e5a0a04c3c6d52d18cbf1632ea3cffe45f6.jpeg) I wouldnā€™t discount the Wahoo being linked. They do that well with many third party sites. Some of which ā€œStrava, Best Bike Splitā€ etc are often mentioned on the podcast. Just saying. ---
**Author:** ![Papuass](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/papuass/32/162_2.png) [@Papuass](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/Papuass)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2019, 7:34am UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/new-tr-feature-what-is-nate-testing-out/13592/53 "2019-03-22T07:34:16Z")
If this is about loading workouts, most likely not. If this is it, then it is time to replace my 500 (such a perfect product). ---
**Author:** ![Rizzi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/rizzi/32/17674_2.png) [@Rizzi](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/Rizzi)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2019, 11:28pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/new-tr-feature-what-is-nate-testing-out/13592/54 "2019-03-22T23:28:22Z")
Head unit integration would be awesomeā€¦but maybe itā€™s the simple approachā€¦remember this thread: > [@Would having alternative text based outside workouts (for TR workouts) be useful?](https://www.trainerroad.com/forumt/would-having-alternative-text-based-outside-workouts-for-tr-workouts-be-useful/6769): > > Doing a straight up time based workout with TR outside can be difficult. We have long term plans to adjust the app so that itā€™s easier to do outside workouts but I think we can deliver some value before that. The idea is that for any indoor workout on your calendar or in the workout library, you could hit a button and get an ā€œoutside workoutā€ that is text based with either power range targets (specific to you) or RPE targets (if you donā€™t have a PM on the bike youā€™ll use). Some of our workoutā€¦ ---
**Author:** ![bbarrera](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/bbarrera/32/14734_2.png) [@bbarrera](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/bbarrera)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2019, 11:57pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/new-tr-feature-what-is-nate-testing-out/13592/55 "2019-03-22T23:57:23Z")
Iā€™ll put my money down on the ā€œprint and tape to barā€ solution as step 1. Then later look for head unit integration. Software sounds easy, but is actually hard to deliver. ---
**Author:** ![hubcyclist](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/hubcyclist/32/14363_2.png) [@hubcyclist](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/hubcyclist)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2019, 5:13pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/new-tr-feature-what-is-nate-testing-out/13592/56 "2019-03-23T17:13:55Z")
@Nate_Pearson keeps on trolling, see his screenshot in strava today lol [https://www.strava.com/activities/2234720051](https://www.strava.com/activities/2234720051) ---
**Author:** ![bbarrera](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/bbarrera/32/14734_2.png) [@bbarrera](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/bbarrera)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2019, 5:54pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/new-tr-feature-what-is-nate-testing-out/13592/57 "2019-03-23T17:54:14Z")
hmm, isnā€™t that using TR app as-is? Spin bike with his Garmin Vector3 pedals on it, right? Our gym has Stages bikes with left-only power meters, and I can use TR app as-is to do workouts. ---
**Author:** ![ErickVH](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/erickvh/32/15689_2.png) [@ErickVH](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/ErickVH)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2019, 5:55pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/new-tr-feature-what-is-nate-testing-out/13592/58 "2019-03-23T17:55:32Z")
The last screenshot. It has ā€˜do insideā€™ ā€˜do outsideā€™ buttons. ---
**Author:** ![hubcyclist](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/hubcyclist/32/14363_2.png) [@hubcyclist](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/hubcyclist)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2019, 5:55pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/new-tr-feature-what-is-nate-testing-out/13592/59 "2019-03-23T17:55:49Z")
Yeah but the app has the ride outside option! ---
**Author:** ![bbarrera](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/bbarrera/32/14734_2.png) [@bbarrera](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/bbarrera)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2019, 5:57pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/new-tr-feature-what-is-nate-testing-out/13592/60 "2019-03-23T17:57:54Z")
Doh! Hand me another cup or three of coffee ā˜•ā˜•ā˜• ---
**Author:** ![Macy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/macy/32/6458_2.png) [@Macy](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/Macy)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2019, 8:45pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/new-tr-feature-what-is-nate-testing-out/13592/61 "2019-03-23T20:45:53Z")
Donā€™t think Iā€™ll be replacing my bolt (assuming itā€™s not supported), but may use it to justify a new Garmin watch if it trainerroad worked with it via iq [Previous page](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/new-tr-feature-what-is-nate-testing-out/13592.md?page=2) [Next page](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/new-tr-feature-what-is-nate-testing-out/13592.md?page=4)