# Masters Plans and More Launched Today! 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉

**URL:** <https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/masters-plans-and-more-launched-today/87874>\
**Category:** Announcements\
**Created:** [October 30, 2023, 10:28pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/masters-plans-and-more-launched-today/87874 "2023-10-30T22:28:03Z")\
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**Author:** ![Dknotty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/4af34b/32.png) [@Dknotty](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/Dknotty)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2023, 11:55pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/masters-plans-and-more-launched-today/87874/21 "2023-10-30T23:55:36Z")

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Wow these look interesting. What’s the difference between the masters plan and the polarised plans?

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**Author:** ![Textuality](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/textuality/32/72636_2.png) [@Textuality](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/Textuality)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2023, 12:30am UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/masters-plans-and-more-launched-today/87874/22 "2023-10-31T00:30:11Z")

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Excellent news on the masters plans.

Also, bizarrely I was wondering last week why the hell I was doing an easier sweet spot session on a Sunday when an Endurance ride would fit better… and there we go!

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**Author:** ![CorradoSaurin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/corradosaurin/32/149812_2.png) [@CorradoSaurin](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/CorradoSaurin)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2023, 12:37am UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/masters-plans-and-more-launched-today/87874/23 "2023-10-31T00:37:29Z")

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Thanks so much Nate and @all the TR Team. 🤗  
Cheers.  
Corrado.

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**Author:** ![mtbjones](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/mtbjones/32/12895_2.png) [@mtbjones](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/mtbjones)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2023, 12:53am UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/masters-plans-and-more-launched-today/87874/24 "2023-10-31T00:53:36Z")

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I’m already wondering about the wisdom of doing the LV Masters Plan condensed into Tuesday, Wednesday, and Thursday, then doing unstructured rides on the weekend 🤔

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**Author:** ![patricksudol](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/patricksudol/32/133946_2.png) [@patricksudol](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/patricksudol)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2023, 1:03am UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/masters-plans-and-more-launched-today/87874/26 "2023-10-31T01:03:57Z")

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This is awesome, thank you!

I have noticed when I update the duration of workouts in future training blocks that the workouts don’t update. e.g I set Wednesdays to be 120 minutes but I still see 60 minute workouts:

 ![IMG_1210](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/original/3X/8/b/8b17b31b0248669725a4810d5ad133c3213ad928.jpeg)  
 ![IMG_1211](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/original/3X/0/0/00918ef3c793455130ea28cdd9555d6bb0071a00.jpeg)  
 ![IMG_1213](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/original/3X/0/4/048f67b5986efce805919f2dc3ad8728096612a3.jpeg)

Will this update when AT runs for the block I am about to start?

FWIW I do see the updated lengths in my current training block. 👍

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**Author:** ![Jonathan](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/jonathan/32/15_2.png) [@Jonathan](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/Jonathan)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2023, 1:22am UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/masters-plans-and-more-launched-today/87874/27 "2023-10-31T01:22:48Z")

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> [@Dknotty](#):
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> Wow these look interesting. What’s the difference between the masters plan and the polarised plans?

The Masters Plans aren’t “Polarized” as they don’t follow any sort of specific Polarized structure, whether that’s time-in-zone or daily intention.

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**Author:** ![Toasterthief](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/toasterthief/32/120061_2.png) [@Toasterthief](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/Toasterthief)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2023, 1:29am UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/masters-plans-and-more-launched-today/87874/28 "2023-10-31T01:29:29Z")

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Love the max duration option!

Is there a way to reoptimize my current plan with these changes? Or do I have to start from scratch?

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**Author:** ![mattkime](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/mattkime/32/66280_2.png) [@mattkime](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/mattkime)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2023, 1:30am UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/masters-plans-and-more-launched-today/87874/29 "2023-10-31T01:30:55Z")

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I literally started Sweet Spot Base today and did the first workout. It just so happens that I was going to shape my training more like General Base anyway. Whats the best way to switch to General Base?

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**Author:** ![RONDAL](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/rondal/32/7721_2.png) [@RONDAL](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/RONDAL)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2023, 1:36am UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/masters-plans-and-more-launched-today/87874/30 "2023-10-31T01:36:18Z")

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> [@Nate\_Pearson](#):
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> **Custom Workout Duration**  
> A couple weeks ago, we launched a new feature that I’d like to share.
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> You can now specify the duration of each workout in a plan.

Finally!  
And thank you.

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**Author:** ![patricksudol](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/patricksudol/32/133946_2.png) [@patricksudol](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/patricksudol)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2023, 1:52am UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/masters-plans-and-more-launched-today/87874/31 "2023-10-31T01:52:24Z")

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A second potential bug/issue I found with Custom Workout Duration.

In my current training block I noticed, after my workouts’ lengths updated, the intensities for my interval days (I am doing high volume polarized) were updated to be well below my PLs. e.g Tomorrow I was scheduled to a 4.5 Threshold workout (stretch) but the workout changed to a 2.4 (achievable). My current PL is 3.2.

So to see if I could “adapt” this back to what it was originally I resaved a post workout survey from a recent workout which triggered AT to readapt that workout to a stretch workout. In doing so my workouts went back to their original durations even though the block settings still have them as longer. e.g The Wednesday zone 2 workouts I set to be two hours went back to being the out of the box, prescribed 60 minutes.

 ![IMG_0995](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/original/3X/3/1/313897eafb78b0e44bdbcdecb12504cf8cba45ab.png)  
 ![IMG_1013](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/original/3X/5/7/57d3796beccaca949a0001d08235386826ffc9af.png)

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**Author:** ![rswagler1](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/rswagler1/32/101174_2.png) [@rswagler1](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/rswagler1)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2023, 1:53am UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/masters-plans-and-more-launched-today/87874/32 "2023-10-31T01:53:18Z")

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I really appreciate the Masters plans as a 60+ athlete but even the high volume plan would be a reduction in my training volume, and I’m training for a four race series of 100mi gravel races in the first six weeks of 2024. Can I trust this to do more for me than I’m doing on my own?

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**Author:** ![Leah\_Pogoriler](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/leah_pogoriler/32/132452_2.png) [@Leah\_Pogoriler](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/Leah_Pogoriler)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2023, 2:09am UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/masters-plans-and-more-launched-today/87874/33 "2023-10-31T02:09:12Z")

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This is very welcome news! Thanks to the whole TR gang!

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**Author:** ![thomasliew](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/thomasliew/32/132199_2.png) [@thomasliew](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/thomasliew)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2023, 2:20am UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/masters-plans-and-more-launched-today/87874/34 "2023-10-31T02:20:15Z")

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I’m currently into my 5th week of Sweet Spot I, should I look to create a new plan (with the renamed General Base) once I have completed the week 6 recovery?

What would be your advice? Should I track with these new updates or would it be better to just follow theoriginal plan? I am an untrained cyclist, 1 month into structured training.

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**Author:** ![SeanHurley](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/seanhurley/32/55555_2.png) [@SeanHurley](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/SeanHurley)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2023, 2:27am UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/masters-plans-and-more-launched-today/87874/35 "2023-10-31T02:27:58Z")

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> [@thomasliew](#):
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> I’m currently into my 5th week of Sweet Spot I, should I look to create a new plan (with the renamed General Base) once I have completed the week 6 recovery?

Did you create your plan with Plan Builder? If so, stick with it for now! When you reach the first week of your next phase, we’ll automatically update the rest of your plan to the new structure, and we’ll offer to switch your plan to a masters version if you’d prefer it, too.

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**Author:** ![Nate\_Pearson](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/nate_pearson/32/117463_2.png) [@Nate\_Pearson](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/Nate_Pearson)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2023, 2:48am UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/masters-plans-and-more-launched-today/87874/36 "2023-10-31T02:48:06Z")

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> [@Dknotty](#):
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> Wow these look interesting. What’s the difference between the masters plan and the polarised plans?

The types of workouts. This follows a three zone model and polarized follows a 2 zone.

Plus the workout profiles are very different and there’s more specialization.

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**Author:** ![Nate\_Pearson](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/nate_pearson/32/117463_2.png) [@Nate\_Pearson](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/Nate_Pearson)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2023, 2:49am UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/masters-plans-and-more-launched-today/87874/37 "2023-10-31T02:49:11Z")

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Yes, look at the first post. There’s a screen shot showing how to do that.

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**Author:** ![Nate\_Pearson](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/nate_pearson/32/117463_2.png) [@Nate\_Pearson](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/Nate_Pearson)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2023, 2:49am UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/masters-plans-and-more-launched-today/87874/38 "2023-10-31T02:49:57Z")

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> [@mattkime](#):
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> I literally started Sweet Spot Base today and did the first workout. It just so happens that I was going to shape my training more like General Base anyway. Whats the best way to switch to General Base?

Click on your training phase name on the calendar (its in the top right) and then choose general base from there.

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**Author:** ![Nate\_Pearson](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/nate_pearson/32/117463_2.png) [@Nate\_Pearson](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/Nate_Pearson)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2023, 2:51am UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/masters-plans-and-more-launched-today/87874/39 "2023-10-31T02:51:15Z")

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Just keep going, at the end of your current phase it will prompt you if you’d like to switch to masters.

We did this exactly for situations like yours where you might end up cutting off some recovery.

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**Author:** ![mattkime](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/mattkime/32/66280_2.png) [@mattkime](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/mattkime)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2023, 2:57am UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/masters-plans-and-more-launched-today/87874/40 "2023-10-31T02:57:10Z")

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> [@Nate\_Pearson](#):
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> Click on your training phase name on the calendar (its in the top right) and then choose general base from there.

I think I need to see some screenshots. As best I can tell my only option is to delete the current plan. I guess I’m hoping to find a way that today’s activity counts toward the General Base plan although I’m not sure if it really matters.

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Its also possible that I’m not seeing a UI thats expected to be shown.

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Update - I deleted my existing plan and was able to select General Base and it correctly saw my workout yesterday as part of the new training plan.

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**Author:** ![thomasliew](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/thomasliew/32/132199_2.png) [@thomasliew](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/thomasliew)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2023, 2:59am UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/masters-plans-and-more-launched-today/87874/42 "2023-10-31T02:59:22Z")

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Thank you! Yes it was created with plan builder. Loving TrainerRoad🔥

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