# Manually Updated FTP progression levels **URL:** \ **Category:** TrainerRoad Software\ **Created:** [February 8, 2022, 2:15pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/manually-updated-ftp-progression-levels/69059 "2022-02-08T14:15:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 18\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Junebug](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/junebug/32/7725_2.png) [@Junebug](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/Junebug)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2022, 2:15pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/manually-updated-ftp-progression-levels/69059/1 "2022-02-08T14:15:40Z")
So yesterday I updated my FTP manually because of an ftp test I did outside of TR. My progression levels all dropped as expected however my scheduled workouts did not adapt! So my next workout (today) is a 5.9 breakthrough SS but my progression level is only 1.5 for SS work! What gives? Just wants me to fail? Thanks for any insight! ---
**Author:** ![hubcyclist](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/hubcyclist/32/14363_2.png) [@hubcyclist](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/hubcyclist)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2022, 2:31pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/manually-updated-ftp-progression-levels/69059/2 "2022-02-08T14:31:52Z")
Honestly if you can’t do a 5.9 level at your new ftp then it might be too high. A couple of months back I manually updated my ftp and my levels dropped by 0.6 but I essentially continued on the same progression level path I had prior to the ftp change. I know this isn’t a TR approved answer, i just have developed certain feelings regarding minimum standards for different areas with a correct ftp ---
**Author:** ![Buckethead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Buckethead](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/Buckethead)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2022, 2:35pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/manually-updated-ftp-progression-levels/69059/3 "2022-02-08T14:35:33Z")
If your progressions levels dropped, but future workouts did not adapt I would reach out to support. Have then take a look - [support@trainerroad.com](mailto:support@trainerroad.com) ---
**Author:** ![Junebug](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/junebug/32/7725_2.png) [@Junebug](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/Junebug)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2022, 2:37pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/manually-updated-ftp-progression-levels/69059/4 "2022-02-08T14:37:06Z")
Thanks for the reply, when I updated my ftp the SS progression level dropped from 4.4 to 1.5. It’s likely the upcoming SS workout was already to much of a jump from my 4.4 progression level! Now it’s unattainable in my opinion. I’m sure my ftp isn’t to high! Completed it twice with same result. ---
**Author:** ![hubcyclist](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/hubcyclist/32/14363_2.png) [@hubcyclist](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/hubcyclist)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2022, 2:47pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/manually-updated-ftp-progression-levels/69059/5 "2022-02-08T14:47:40Z")
Completed twice, you mean didn’t complete the workout because it was too hard? ---
**Author:** ![Junebug](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/junebug/32/7725_2.png) [@Junebug](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/Junebug)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2022, 2:51pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/manually-updated-ftp-progression-levels/69059/6 "2022-02-08T14:51:30Z")
Completed two FTP tests to verify it was correct. The workout is scheduled for today. ---
**Author:** ![hubcyclist](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/hubcyclist/32/14363_2.png) [@hubcyclist](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/hubcyclist)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2022, 2:52pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/manually-updated-ftp-progression-levels/69059/7 "2022-02-08T14:52:57Z")
Give it a try then, you may be surprised at how well you do. With a properly set ftp workouts in the 5 level should be super doable. What workout is it? ---
**Author:** ![Junebug](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/junebug/32/7725_2.png) [@Junebug](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/Junebug)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2022, 2:54pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/manually-updated-ftp-progression-levels/69059/8 "2022-02-08T14:54:00Z")
Geiger ---
**Author:** ![hubcyclist](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/hubcyclist/32/14363_2.png) [@hubcyclist](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/hubcyclist)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2022, 2:57pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/manually-updated-ftp-progression-levels/69059/9 "2022-02-08T14:57:19Z")
3x12 should be pretty easy, in my opinion. I would do it ---
**Author:** ![ChefAcB](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/chefacb/32/144835_2.png) [@ChefAcB](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/ChefAcB)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2022, 2:57pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/manually-updated-ftp-progression-levels/69059/10 "2022-02-08T14:57:51Z")
Try logging on the web sometimes that initiates the adaptations. ---
**Author:** ![Junebug](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/junebug/32/7725_2.png) [@Junebug](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/Junebug)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2022, 2:58pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/manually-updated-ftp-progression-levels/69059/11 "2022-02-08T14:58:52Z")
Interesting enough it just updated and kept tge same workout but reduced the progression level from 5.9 to 4.5! 🤷‍♂️ ---
**Author:** ![IvyAudrain](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/ivyaudrain/32/47471_2.png) [@IvyAudrain](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/IvyAudrain)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2022, 6:29pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/manually-updated-ftp-progression-levels/69059/12 "2022-02-08T18:29:44Z")
More info here under FAQ’s and ‘Why did my Progression Levels Change’ \> ‘FTP Increase’ > **[Progression Levels](https://support.trainerroad.com/hc/en-us/articles/4404665021595-Progression-Levels)** > > Progression Levels are a dynamic, real-time representation of your fitness and ability to express your FTP across each training zone. They are measured on a scale from 1-10 to track your progress. > ... If you think something is _amiss_ though and the drop was too severe, best protocol is to check in with [support@trainerroad.com](mailto:support@trainerroad.com) so they can take a look. Keep in mind though, those Progression Levels are just speaking to where you’re at, dont put too much weight into those numbers! Easier said than done though, right?! 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Junebug](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/junebug/32/7725_2.png) [@Junebug](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/Junebug)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2022, 8:09pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/manually-updated-ftp-progression-levels/69059/13 "2022-02-08T20:09:16Z")
Thanks @IvyAudrain ---
**Author:** ![jarsson](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/jarsson/32/69117_2.png) [@jarsson](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/jarsson)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2022, 10:07pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/manually-updated-ftp-progression-levels/69059/14 "2022-02-08T22:07:51Z")
> [@Junebug](#): > > Geiger Just do the workout, it’s an easy workout. If you fail you know your FTP is off or it was too hard for a given day, if you do this - you will progress as you should. I personally do not use the levels as any guide for anything but I see many people care too much about them. If they change, they change. If you decided AT is a solution for you just go with it. In the worst possible scenario you will fail the workout and AT will adapt accordingly. ---
**Author:** ![Junebug](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/junebug/32/7725_2.png) [@Junebug](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/Junebug)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2022, 11:32pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/manually-updated-ftp-progression-levels/69059/15 "2022-02-08T23:32:52Z")
Ok I finished the workout! @ a 4.5 progression level but my career progression still shows 1.5! What gives with that @IvyAudrain ? I answered as a very hard workout so now it wants to adapt me down! It was hard-very hard but I was able to finish string so I may just refuse the adaptation and see where this goes! 🤷‍♂️ ---
**Author:** ![Junebug](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/junebug/32/7725_2.png) [@Junebug](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/Junebug)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2022, 11:36pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/manually-updated-ftp-progression-levels/69059/16 "2022-02-08T23:36:49Z")
Easy is relative’ ---
**Author:** ![jarsson](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/jarsson/32/69117_2.png) [@jarsson](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/jarsson)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2022, 6:26am UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/manually-updated-ftp-progression-levels/69059/17 "2022-02-09T06:26:21Z")
I have meant “easy” in relative terms. Basically if you have problem to finish that workout, something is off and issue is deeper than tr levels. ---
**Author:** ![IvyAudrain](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/ivyaudrain/32/47471_2.png) [@IvyAudrain](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/IvyAudrain)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2022, 4:17pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/manually-updated-ftp-progression-levels/69059/18 "2022-02-09T16:17:30Z")
Best protocol for specifics on AT and your Progression Levels is always to check in with the support team. They have the best visibility to the _full scope_ of your workouts, FTP changes, adaptations, Progression Levels, and why AT may be behaving the way it is (or fix it if something is amiss!). Feel free to write [support@trainerroad.com](mailto:support@trainerroad.com) so they can provide some insight!