# Longitudinal graph of progression levels \[Feature Request\] **URL:** \ **Category:** TrainerRoad Software\ **Tags:** feature-request\ **Created:** [May 17, 2021, 4:48pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/longitudinal-graph-of-progression-levels-feature-request/58769 "2021-05-17T16:48:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 18\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![neurocyclogist](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/neurocyclogist/32/7746_2.png) [@neurocyclogist](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/neurocyclogist)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2021, 4:48pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/longitudinal-graph-of-progression-levels-feature-request/58769/1 "2021-05-17T16:48:59Z")
Is there anyway you can add a longitudinal graph of the progression levels so I can track my progress over time? Thanks ---
**Author:** ![wistoon33](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/wistoon33/32/79474_2.png) [@wistoon33](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/wistoon33)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2021, 5:34pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/longitudinal-graph-of-progression-levels-feature-request/58769/2 "2021-05-17T17:34:06Z")
I’m not sure this would make sense in the long term. The way I understand it, your progression levels “reset” with each FTP test. ---
**Author:** ![neurocyclogist](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/neurocyclogist/32/7746_2.png) [@neurocyclogist](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/neurocyclogist)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2021, 8:09pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/longitudinal-graph-of-progression-levels-feature-request/58769/3 "2021-05-17T20:09:43Z")
I thought that the reset to “4” was a glitch. The ramp test may alter your numbers a bit but it would still be interesting to see how you progress or decay over time. ---
**Author:** ![neurocyclogist](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/neurocyclogist/32/7746_2.png) [@neurocyclogist](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/neurocyclogist)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2021, 4:49pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/longitudinal-graph-of-progression-levels-feature-request/58769/4 "2021-05-19T16:49:35Z")
I was wrong. They do indeed reset. Thanks. It still would be cool if there was a way to track long term gains ---
**Author:** ![IvyAudrain](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/ivyaudrain/32/47471_2.png) [@IvyAudrain](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/IvyAudrain)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2021, 5:31pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/longitudinal-graph-of-progression-levels-feature-request/58769/5 "2021-05-19T17:31:03Z")
This feature is on our roadmap! What it will look like and exactly how extensive the visibility will be is still ‘under construction’. Stay tuned! 🕶 ✌ ---
**Author:** ![purplecu22](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/purplecu22/32/12893_2.png) [@purplecu22](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/purplecu22)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2021, 5:26pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/longitudinal-graph-of-progression-levels-feature-request/58769/6 "2021-10-19T17:26:07Z")
I would also like to compare my progression levels. Compare my level at the end of the month to when i started at the beginning of the month. ---
**Author:** ![Rob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/838e76/32.png) [@Rob](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/Rob)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2021, 5:39pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/longitudinal-graph-of-progression-levels-feature-request/58769/7 "2021-10-19T17:39:12Z")
I’m confused why this would be useful? Aren’t progression levels based against your FTP? My progression levels could be the same as someone else’s but our FTP/power curve might be very different. I know I would take more benefit from knowing my power changes over time. ---
**Author:** ![purplecu22](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/purplecu22/32/12893_2.png) [@purplecu22](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/purplecu22)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2021, 5:47pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/longitudinal-graph-of-progression-levels-feature-request/58769/8 "2021-10-19T17:47:43Z")
I get that my sweet spot and above might only move .1 or more. But I like to watch my endurance and tempo the most. So on the 1st of the month my tempo was say 3.0 and at the end of the month it is a 3.6. Thats what i like to watch. Just an example. ---
**Author:** ![rkoswald](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/rkoswald/32/28273_2.png) [@rkoswald](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/rkoswald)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2021, 5:53pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/longitudinal-graph-of-progression-levels-feature-request/58769/9 "2021-10-19T17:53:35Z")
+1 for this feature. FWIW, I’ve been tracking my PLs manually in Google Sheets and created a TR-looking bar chart and a Garmin Connect-looking line graph. On the bar chart newest data for each PL is toward the bottom, oldest at the top. This time period covers four months and coincided with the start of Sweet Spot Base MV. I then completed Sustained Power Build MV and am half way through Century Specialty MV. On 30 July I took a ramp test and dropped 30 watts. I knew my FTP had dropped from peaking for my A event but 30 watts was too much. I manually split the difference (15 watt drop), which is the second grey diamond on the line chart. AT didn’t like all of the FTP changes and essentially reset all PLs but within a week threshold and VO2 were back up to where they should be, which is most of what SusPB focuses on so that all checks. ![Screen Shot 2021-10-19 at 1.45.53 PM](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/original/3X/c/4/c4b181701d4f85fca5ad27dc0acc72cb44a6af6a.png) ![Screen Shot 2021-10-19 at 1.46.24 PM](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/original/3X/7/1/717a369ab3a819a469a6b248955bde76b2d20a45.png) ---
**Author:** ![bbarrera](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/bbarrera/32/14734_2.png) [@bbarrera](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/bbarrera)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2021, 5:58pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/longitudinal-graph-of-progression-levels-feature-request/58769/10 "2021-10-19T17:58:36Z")
While I understand curiosity, not sure of the value of tracking PLs given the levels are relative and can change after an update to your FTP estimate. 🤷‍♂️ ---
**Author:** ![rkoswald](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/rkoswald/32/28273_2.png) [@rkoswald](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/rkoswald)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2021, 6:57pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/longitudinal-graph-of-progression-levels-feature-request/58769/11 "2021-10-19T18:57:34Z")
Agreed. I track it because I’m curious. Also, it’s nice to see progress over base/build/specialty. ---
**Author:** ![bbarrera](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/bbarrera/32/14734_2.png) [@bbarrera](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/bbarrera)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2021, 7:06pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/longitudinal-graph-of-progression-levels-feature-request/58769/12 "2021-10-19T19:06:14Z")
One goal of training is to increase power, and that can’t be seen in PL tracking. Although I understand how progress can be motivation, no matter if that is beating your own times on Strava segments, or going from getting dropped to hanging with the A group, seeing PL increases (and decreases?!), to tracking changes in power curve. ---
**Author:** ![Rob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/838e76/32.png) [@Rob](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/Rob)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2021, 7:45pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/longitudinal-graph-of-progression-levels-feature-request/58769/13 "2021-10-19T19:45:27Z")
Wouldn’t it reset though as you do ramp tests at each phase? ---
**Author:** ![rkoswald](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/rkoswald/32/28273_2.png) [@rkoswald](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/rkoswald)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2021, 12:20am UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/longitudinal-graph-of-progression-levels-feature-request/58769/14 "2021-10-20T00:20:20Z")
Ideally PLs move down/up according to your FTP increase/decrease. This has not been the case yet, though, and TR acknowledges that it needs work. One benefit of tracking my PL history was to see how quickly AT got back to the “right” levels after an FTP change. For me it was within 1-2 threshold and VO2 workouts. ---
**Author:** ![JoeX](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/joex/32/6640_2.png) [@JoeX](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/JoeX)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2021, 9:02pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/longitudinal-graph-of-progression-levels-feature-request/58769/15 "2021-10-20T21:02:17Z")
> [@rkoswald](#): > > nice to see progress over base/build/specialty. It’s not logical to track this beyond a single training block…although, I suppose there are people who never do FTP tests/never change their FTP? ---
**Author:** ![mcneese.chad](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/mcneese.chad/32/15056_2.png) [@mcneese.chad](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/mcneese.chad)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2021, 12:21pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/longitudinal-graph-of-progression-levels-feature-request/58769/17 "2021-10-21T12:21:32Z")
I can’t find it at the moment, but there is an existing Feature Request for that on file with TR. ---
**Author:** ![IvyAudrain](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/ivyaudrain/32/47471_2.png) [@IvyAudrain](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/IvyAudrain)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2021, 4:58pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/longitudinal-graph-of-progression-levels-feature-request/58769/18 "2021-10-22T16:58:18Z")
Bumping to the team, thanks! ---
**Author:** ![dbrillha](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/dbrillha/32/85056_2.png) [@dbrillha](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/dbrillha)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2021, 2:12pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/longitudinal-graph-of-progression-levels-feature-request/58769/19 "2021-11-24T14:12:31Z")
@IvyAudrain - some replies suggest that due to FTP changes, and PL resets, this time-based view would not make sense. But you can handle that. For example, I start with Endurance PL 1.0 with FTP 200. I build to PL 6.5 then do a ramp test. My new FTP is 220 and PL is reset to 1.0. My next workout I get a PL +1.1 for Endurance. Two factors… that 1.1 is based on my new FTP that is 10% higher. So it is really a gain of 1.2. So based on **where I started** , my Endurance PL is now 6.5+1.2=7.7. Having a RESET button to re-baseline the tracking would be nice too… but these two factors would handle changing FTPs and PL resets, to still allow one to compare progressions over time based on a defined starting point.