# Let's see your paincave!

**URL:** <https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/lets-see-your-paincave/375>\
**Category:** Equipment\
**Tags:** bike\
**Created:** [September 27, 2018, 12:52am UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/lets-see-your-paincave/375 "2018-09-27T00:52:11Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Supermurph19](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/supermurph19/32/3304_2.png) [@Supermurph19](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/Supermurph19)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2019, 1:59pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/lets-see-your-paincave/375/521 "2019-01-25T13:59:17Z")

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Can you juggle chainsaws at the same time?

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**Author:** ![ZeroGravity](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/zerogravity/32/15632_2.png) [@ZeroGravity](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/ZeroGravity)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2019, 2:15pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/lets-see-your-paincave/375/522 "2019-01-25T14:15:40Z")

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The one I saw recently on a GCN setup video is to sit with your leg straightened with your heel on the pedal. That way way when you are in your normal for position your one will be all slightly bent.

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**Author:** ![mcneese.chad](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/mcneese.chad/32/15056_2.png) [@mcneese.chad](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/mcneese.chad)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2019, 2:51pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/lets-see-your-paincave/375/523 "2019-01-25T14:51:28Z")

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That is one of the oldest methods for saddle height around. Literally decades old.

- It’s not horrible, but you have to recognize that the variations in the person, shoes, pedals and such will all impact the results.
- Not to mention the tendency for people to rock on the saddle when doing the leg stretch, that can influence the results as well.

There are several other methods that can be done via calculations based on inseam as well. In any event, it’s useful to have a check from another person to see how it looks in motion. A camera can help if you don’t have someone able to watch.

But as this is all off-topic, we should probably start a dedicated fitting thread if we want to go further.

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**Author:** ![hugo1](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/hugo1/32/13355_2.png) [@hugo1](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/hugo1)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2019, 3:41pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/lets-see-your-paincave/375/524 "2019-01-25T15:41:36Z")

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Please, create one.

These two articles would be relevant, regarding saddle height:

> **[Your Seat's Too Low? Good For You](https://www.slowtwitch.com/Bike_Fit/General_Fit_Articles/Your_Seat_s_Too_Low_Good_For_You_6229.html)**
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> Without question, the unofficial motto of the Slowtwitch forums is, "Your seat's too high." While this has become a bit of an inside joke, there's a fundamental truth in this quip that's worth discussing further.

> **[Why does Chris Froome look so bad on a bike?](https://www.velonews.com/news/road/why-does-chris-froome-look-so-bad-on-a-bike/)**
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> Chris Froome is constantly fiddling with his saddle position, but the result is always the same. Yet it doesn't slow him down.

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**Author:** ![mcneese.chad](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/mcneese.chad/32/15056_2.png) [@mcneese.chad](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/mcneese.chad)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2019, 4:18pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/lets-see-your-paincave/375/525 "2019-01-25T16:18:42Z")

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> [@The Bike Fitting Mega-Thread](https://www.trainerroad.com/forumt/the-bike-fitting-mega-thread/10527):
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> This is a primary thread to discuss Bike Fitting methods and issues. I will edit this lead post with useful links for starters. Feel free to post your questions and issues, and we will do our best to address them. A bit about me: My bike fit interest started back in 1997 with the [Fit Kit Systems](https://fitkitsystems.com/) which was based in my home town at the time. I started learning about saddle setup, cleat alignment, and front end settings. I used that info to experiment with my fit and those of a few friends. …

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**Author:** ![edwardamartin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/edwardamartin/32/7754_2.png) [@edwardamartin](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/edwardamartin)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2019, 6:26pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/lets-see-your-paincave/375/526 "2019-01-25T18:26:50Z")

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![EAM_9311_edited-1](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/original/2X/5/554358a0e3404df711cf8e823f52c8721842d65e.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![mcneese.chad](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/mcneese.chad/32/15056_2.png) [@mcneese.chad](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/mcneese.chad)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2019, 1:15am UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/lets-see-your-paincave/375/528 "2019-01-26T01:15:10Z")

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I just bought a Shiv and need to finish the build.

How do you like yours?

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**Author:** ![AujujuSauce](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f0a364/32.png) [@AujujuSauce](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/AujujuSauce)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2019, 4:09am UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/lets-see-your-paincave/375/529 "2019-01-26T04:09:09Z")

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I like it a lot, but full disclosure…first week on it and first tt bike lol

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**Author:** ![PusherMan](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/pusherman/32/4266_2.png) [@PusherMan](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/PusherMan)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2019, 7:26am UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/lets-see-your-paincave/375/530 "2019-01-26T07:26:29Z")

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Looks like you’ve got an interesting session ahead of you 😉

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**Author:** ![Smithy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/smithy/32/36110_2.png) [@Smithy](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/Smithy)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2019, 10:32am UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/lets-see-your-paincave/375/531 "2019-01-26T10:32:07Z")

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Ok…wowsers. We have a heatwave in Australia at the moment and the shed it getting up to 45 degrees plus after 7:30pm (when kids are asleep). I have three fans and a cooler.

Any cooling tips? I cannot train in the morning as the wife likes sleep ins and if one of the young children wakes up early I’m a dead man if caught on the trainer!!!

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**Author:** ![ZeroGravity](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/zerogravity/32/15632_2.png) [@ZeroGravity](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/ZeroGravity)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2019, 2:54pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/lets-see-your-paincave/375/532 "2019-01-26T14:54:23Z")

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A few changes. Pulled out the spin bike for my wife and changed my Stevens to an older Giant TCR which will likely become a dedicated trainer bike.

 ![IMG_20190126_095017](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/original/2X/6/6251bca32192c44c066d7d563a1fa471a790069a.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![robertbb](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/robertbb/32/1707_2.png) [@robertbb](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/robertbb)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2019, 9:21pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/lets-see-your-paincave/375/533 "2019-01-26T21:21:29Z")

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Handlebar clothes hook!

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**Author:** ![JoeX](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/joex/32/6640_2.png) [@JoeX](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/JoeX)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2019, 10:35pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/lets-see-your-paincave/375/534 "2019-01-26T22:35:08Z")

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So much space! 👍

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**Author:** ![JoeX](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/joex/32/6640_2.png) [@JoeX](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/JoeX)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2019, 10:35pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/lets-see-your-paincave/375/535 "2019-01-26T22:35:27Z")

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Nice pic 😜

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**Author:** ![AujujuSauce](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f0a364/32.png) [@AujujuSauce](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/AujujuSauce)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2019, 10:44pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/lets-see-your-paincave/375/536 "2019-01-26T22:44:19Z")

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Nebraska real estate! Lol

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**Author:** ![Fenton](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/fenton/32/7410_2.png) [@Fenton](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/Fenton)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2019, 10:09am UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/lets-see-your-paincave/375/537 "2019-01-27T10:09:03Z")

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only got a tiny flat, so my bikes are in my living room. got a custom phone mount for a Samsung Galaxy A3 with ANT+ ([Custom Phone Mount - TrainerRoad Blog](https://blog.trainerroad.com/custom-phone-mount/)) as well as a JBFlip loudspeaker.

from my bike I can either watch the wall or the road outside. Laptop for watching youtube optional 🙂

 ![15485830958920](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/original/2X/3/336bb30fa0b045e7c854c0d39845879ca0fbf73b.jpeg)

 ![15485832189251](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/original/2X/5/58d467e44175712f2dd4f59ef10b131b3498d7a0.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![chappo](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/chappo/32/94_2.png) [@chappo](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/chappo)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2019, 6:11am UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/lets-see-your-paincave/375/538 "2019-01-28T06:11:20Z")

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Too be honest I have the same problem but have been avoiding it.

One suggestion I have heard is ice on your back (in a stocking). Cools the body and as the fan hits it cools well but I haven’t tried it.

Otherwise I know ryobi have a misting fan that you can get at Bunnings. Sprays a water mist with the fan. Something like that might help but you might also just be drenched at the end of the workout.

Let me know if you get any good solutions.

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**Author:** ![downhiller](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/downhiller/32/9011_2.png) [@downhiller](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/downhiller)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2019, 8:46am UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/lets-see-your-paincave/375/539 "2019-01-28T08:46:51Z")

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How do you find having a phone mounted on your bars like that? I have a similar mount for when I need to nav on a ride IRL, but I’ve assumed if I tried to put my phone on it for a TR session I’d just dribble sweat all over it and render it unusable!

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**Author:** ![Fenton](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/fenton/32/7410_2.png) [@Fenton](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/Fenton)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2019, 9:29am UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/lets-see-your-paincave/375/541 "2019-01-28T09:29:10Z")

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works pretty well for me and I’m a heavy sweater. with the fan and a towel I got no problems whatsoever.

 ![15486669148440](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/original/2X/3/3ca2dd7319501b22c1b2668666db20a6bb5a616f.jpeg)

just recently got the newer version of the A3 (A3 2016/2017 which I think it’s are of the best phones out there - price, size, quality), I just keep the old one solely for workouts or listening to podcasts etc. the newer one’s IP68 waterproof as well

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**Author:** ![downhiller](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/downhiller/32/9011_2.png) [@downhiller](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/downhiller)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2019, 11:49am UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/lets-see-your-paincave/375/542 "2019-01-29T11:49:11Z")

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I think I need to figure out how I can mount my wireless keyboard to a garmin mount so I can get some work done on recovery rides…

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