# iPad Pro what ant + **URL:** \ **Category:** TrainerRoad Software\ **Created:** [August 4, 2019, 9:09pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/ipad-pro-what-ant/19169 "2019-08-04T21:09:15Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![lilyk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/aeb1de/32.png) [@lilyk](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/lilyk)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2019, 9:09pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/ipad-pro-what-ant/19169/1 "2019-08-04T21:09:15Z")
I have been using my Mac with an ant + lead to use trainer road. I now have an iPad Pro and it would be easier to use that but what can I use to connect ant+? It has a different connection to my husbands ipad. Anyone techie out there can help please? ---
**Author:** ![SexyCoolguy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/sexycoolguy/32/43700_2.png) [@SexyCoolguy](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/SexyCoolguy)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2019, 9:51pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/ipad-pro-what-ant/19169/2 "2019-08-04T21:51:02Z")
If your trainer uses Bluetooth your ipad should just work (you’d just need to connect to your trainer in the bluetooth settings of your ipad). Otherwise you need something like this: [https://www.amazon.com/CABLE-Connect-ANT-to-BLE/dp/B071S929ZC/ref=sr\_1\_1?keywords=ant%2B+to+ble&qid=1564955311&s=gateway&sr=8-1](https://www.amazon.com/CABLE-Connect-ANT-to-BLE/dp/B071S929ZC/ref=sr_1_1?tag=trainerroad-20) It receives the ant+ signal and converts it to bluetooth so your ipad can receive it. Alternatively: > **[Amazon.com: Wahoo Fitness Key for iPod/iPhone, Standard Packaging : Sports &...](https://www.amazon.com/Wahoo-Fitness-Key-iPod-iPhone/dp/B0042WGO3Y?tag=trainerroad-20)** > > Buy Wahoo Fitness Key for iPod/iPhone, Standard Packaging: Sports & Outdoors - Amazon.com ✓ FREE DELIVERY possible on eligible purchases but you’d need a 30-pin-to-lightning adapter as they haven’t made one for the more recent iphones/ipads > **[ANT+ Connectivity](https://support.trainerroad.com/hc/en-us/articles/201618914-ANT-Connectivity)** > > ANT+ is a communication protocol that allows wireless devices to transmit information from one another. Simply put, it's the "language" that ANT+ devices use to communicate with each other. Many of... ---
**Author:** ![a59a2e9a2645dbb](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/a59a2e9a2645dbb/32/100578_2.png) [@a59a2e9a2645dbb](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/a59a2e9a2645dbb)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2019, 1:00am UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/ipad-pro-what-ant/19169/3 "2019-08-05T01:00:08Z")
That old 30-pin ANT+ adapter isn’t very reliable, believe me, I’ve tried. If you don’t BT capable devices you’re going to have a lackluster experience on iOS. ---
**Author:** ![BMAC615](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/bmac615/32/13086_2.png) [@BMAC615](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/BMAC615)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2019, 1:02am UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/ipad-pro-what-ant/19169/4 "2019-08-05T01:02:30Z")
I use my iPad Bluetooth w/ a Kickr, Tickr and Wahoo cadence sensor and it’s flawless. ---
**Author:** ![Alen](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/alen/32/4820_2.png) [@Alen](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/Alen)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2019, 1:38am UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/ipad-pro-what-ant/19169/5 "2019-08-05T01:38:31Z")
There was also recently a HR strap review that DCRainmaker did that concerted Ant+ to BT. I don’t remember exactly which but if you go there, you’ll find it. I want to say I saw it about 5-6 mos ago. ---
**Author:** ![mcneese.chad](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/mcneese.chad/32/15056_2.png) [@mcneese.chad](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/mcneese.chad)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2019, 1:58am UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/ipad-pro-what-ant/19169/6 "2019-08-05T01:58:07Z")
This HRM will act as a bridge. > **[4iiii Viiiiva Heart Rate Monitor and ANT+ to BLE Bridge - Buy the most...](https://shop.4iiii.com/collections/heart-rate-monitors)** > > Buy a 4iiii Viiiiva and get a dual-channel ANT+/BLE-capable HRM that also records up to 40 hours of your data and can act as an ANT+ to BLE bridge. ---
**Author:** ![a59a2e9a2645dbb](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/a59a2e9a2645dbb/32/100578_2.png) [@a59a2e9a2645dbb](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/a59a2e9a2645dbb)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2019, 2:50am UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/ipad-pro-what-ant/19169/7 "2019-08-05T02:50:14Z")
What does your answer have to do with Ant+? ---
**Author:** ![OreoCookie](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/oreocookie/32/8298_2.png) [@OreoCookie](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/OreoCookie)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2019, 3:42am UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/ipad-pro-what-ant/19169/8 "2019-08-05T03:42:15Z")
Most devices you own, if not all, should come with Bluetooth. That is just table stakes at this point. I’m using an iPad with my 4iiii power meter and that works flawlessly. ---
**Author:** ![OreoCookie](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/oreocookie/32/8298_2.png) [@OreoCookie](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/OreoCookie)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2019, 3:43am UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/ipad-pro-what-ant/19169/9 "2019-08-05T03:43:32Z")
Perhaps the OP doesn’t know he doesn’t actually need to connect his devices via Ant+. ---
**Author:** ![BMAC615](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/bmac615/32/13086_2.png) [@BMAC615](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/BMAC615)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2019, 4:34am UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/ipad-pro-what-ant/19169/10 "2019-08-05T04:34:25Z")
As others mentioned, OP may not need to use ANT+ with an iPad as many of us use an iPad without ANT+. ---
**Author:** ![bbarrera](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/bbarrera/32/14734_2.png) [@bbarrera](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/bbarrera)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2019, 4:40am UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/ipad-pro-what-ant/19169/11 "2019-08-05T04:40:37Z")
> [@a59a2e9a2645dbb](#): > > That old 30-pin ANT+ adapter isn’t very reliable, believe me, It’s worked for me with an iPhone 5s and 7. But it’s still using 30 pin connector so you gotta wonder how long it’s going to be supported. ---
**Author:** ![a59a2e9a2645dbb](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/a59a2e9a2645dbb/32/100578_2.png) [@a59a2e9a2645dbb](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/a59a2e9a2645dbb)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2019, 5:08am UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/ipad-pro-what-ant/19169/12 "2019-08-05T05:08:18Z")
Actually you are correct, the 30 pin Ant+ dongle worked fine on an old iPhone using the native connector. I had problems with my 30-pin to Lightning connector. It’s a shame an updated model never came out, would be excellent to have a USB-C or Lightning Ant+ dongle. ---
**Author:** ![RolandGosebruch](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/rolandgosebruch/32/8796_2.png) [@RolandGosebruch](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/RolandGosebruch)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2019, 9:10am UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/ipad-pro-what-ant/19169/13 "2019-08-05T09:10:21Z")
Maybe the posters in this thread have not accounted for the main issue, which is connecting to an iPad Pro. If we’re talking about a 2018 iPad Pro, it doesn’t have a Lightning connection, but an USB-C. So, what _might_ work is to take a standard USB Ant+ dongle and connect it to the iPad Pro via a USB-C adapter. No more need for the 30pin dongle and 30pin to Lightning adapters. I haven’t tried it, but it may be worth a shot. ---
**Author:** ![Bryce](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/bryce/32/72_2.png) [@Bryce](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/Bryce)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2019, 3:03pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/ipad-pro-what-ant/19169/14 "2019-08-05T15:03:50Z")
> [@RolandGosebruch](#): > > So, what _might_ work is to take a standard USB Ant+ dongle and connect it to the iPad Pro via a USB-C adapter. Unfortunately, a standard USB ANT+ stick will not work with the iPad Pro, even with the USB-C adapter. With the hardware currently availiable, it is not possible to connect the iPad Pro via ANT+ 😔. As others have mentioned though, it may be possible to pair your sensors via Bluetooth. If that is not an option becasue all of your sensors are ANT+, another possibility is to use a bridging device such as the [CABLE](https://www.amazon.com/CABLE-Connect-ANT-to-BLE/dp/B071S929ZC?tag=trainerroad-20) that will translate your ANT+ signal to Bluetooth. These bridging devices are not _officially_ supported, but we have recieved positive feedback from customers who use them successfully. Cheers, Bryce ---
**Author:** ![RolandGosebruch](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/rolandgosebruch/32/8796_2.png) [@RolandGosebruch](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/RolandGosebruch)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2019, 3:19pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/ipad-pro-what-ant/19169/15 "2019-08-05T15:19:22Z")
> [@Bryce](#): > > Unfortunately, a standard USB ANT+ stick will not work with the iPad Pro, even with the USB-C adapter. With the hardware currently availiable, it is not possible to connect the iPad Pro via ANT+ Too bad. Is this still the case with iPadOS 13, where connectivity with external devices is improved? ---
**Author:** ![Bryce](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/bryce/32/72_2.png) [@Bryce](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/Bryce)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2019, 3:37pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/ipad-pro-what-ant/19169/16 "2019-08-05T15:37:04Z")
> [@RolandGosebruch](#): > > Is this still the case with iPadOS 13, where connectivity with external devices is improved? As far as we know, there is not a compatible ANT+ adapter regardless of OS. ---
**Author:** ![rocourteau](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/rocourteau/32/7746_2.png) [@rocourteau](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/rocourteau)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2019, 3:45pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/ipad-pro-what-ant/19169/17 "2019-08-05T15:45:41Z")
That’s my understanding as well - there are no ANT+ drivers, so you need a bridging device which converts ANT+ into BT. Simplest, as some have noted, is the 4iiii HRM listed above. ---
**Author:** ![RolandGosebruch](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/rolandgosebruch/32/8796_2.png) [@RolandGosebruch](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/RolandGosebruch)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2019, 9:14am UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/ipad-pro-what-ant/19169/18 "2019-08-06T09:14:49Z")
Will this transmit HR and power/cadence from a PM to the TR app? I read here that it doesn’t send HR to the TR app when bridging ANT+ to BLE: [https://www.trainerroad.com/forumt/ant-only-power-meter-with-ios/13296/12?u=](https://www.trainerroad.com/forumt/ant-only-power-meter-with-ios/13296/12) ---
**Author:** ![eerke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/eb9ed0/32.png) [@eerke](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/eerke)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2019, 10:26am UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/ipad-pro-what-ant/19169/19 "2019-08-06T10:26:40Z")
I haven’t tried this in a while, so it may have changed, but TR used to prioritise the power. I used to turn on the 4iiii heart rate monitor and then wear a different heart rate monitor (optical forearm). Cadence and/or speed is already in the Ant+ Power Meter specs. If your power meter does them I expect they’d be okay. If it’s a separate device I would guess it isn’t. ---
**Author:** ![mcneese.chad](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/mcneese.chad/32/15056_2.png) [@mcneese.chad](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/mcneese.chad)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2019, 11:17am UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/ipad-pro-what-ant/19169/20 "2019-08-06T11:17:52Z")
Unfortunately, I don’t have this HRM and have no experience with it specifically. Could be worth and email to [support@trainerroad.com](mailto:support@trainerroad.com) to see if they know.