# 🎉🎉🎉 Introducing AI FTP Detection 🎉🎉🎉

**URL:** <https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/introducing-ai-ftp-detection/69122>\
**Category:** Announcements\
**Created:** [February 9, 2022, 6:32pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/introducing-ai-ftp-detection/69122 "2022-02-09T18:32:10Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Announcement](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/announcement/32/84459_2.png) [@Announcement](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/Announcement)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2022, 7:38am UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/introducing-ai-ftp-detection/69122/1481 "2022-06-05T07:38:07Z")

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you got read this?

> **[How to Use AI FTP Detection](https://support.trainerroad.com/hc/en-us/articles/4415864080155)**
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> Tired of stressing about FTP testing? So were we. AI FTP Detection allows you to skip testing entirely! With AI FTP Detection, you have the option to detect your current FTP instead of performing a...

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**Author:** ![Lupusoff](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/d9b06d/32.png) [@Lupusoff](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/Lupusoff)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2022, 8:33am UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/introducing-ai-ftp-detection/69122/1482 "2022-06-05T08:33:48Z")

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Yes, of course. It worked for me a month ago but not anymore

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**Author:** ![Lupusoff](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/d9b06d/32.png) [@Lupusoff](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/Lupusoff)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2022, 11:26am UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/introducing-ai-ftp-detection/69122/1483 "2022-06-05T11:26:31Z")

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Ok, managed to fix the problem. Desktop app offered FTP detection, while it wasn’t possible on the android app

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**Author:** ![IainW21](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/iainw21/32/85234_2.png) [@IainW21](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/IainW21)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2022, 11:47am UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/introducing-ai-ftp-detection/69122/1484 "2022-06-05T11:47:16Z")

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How did I only learn about this, this week??? Have been using trainer road for 6 months and seeing steady progress particularly in my outdoor rides but I was starting to dread the ramp test. Had seen my numbers go backwards on the test but holding steady on outdoor coins rides etc. can’t wait to see what my first AI FTP Detection will give me. Next Monday!!

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**Author:** ![Announcement](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/announcement/32/84459_2.png) [@Announcement](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/Announcement)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2022, 12:03pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/introducing-ai-ftp-detection/69122/1485 "2022-06-05T12:03:53Z")

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i am using Andriod and it works for me.

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**Author:** ![Lupusoff](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/d9b06d/32.png) [@Lupusoff](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/Lupusoff)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2022, 12:11pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/introducing-ai-ftp-detection/69122/1486 "2022-06-05T12:11:35Z")

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I am signed for a beta app, may be that’s the reason. Anyway it’s all ok now.

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**Author:** ![HLaB](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/hlab/32/60448_2.png) [@HLaB](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/HLaB)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2022, 3:06pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/introducing-ai-ftp-detection/69122/1487 "2022-06-05T15:06:00Z")

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Bizarre, I first got it on my Android but at least you have it working 👍

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**Author:** ![purgatos](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/purgatos/32/12890_2.png) [@purgatos](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/purgatos)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2022, 4:02pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/introducing-ai-ftp-detection/69122/1488 "2022-06-06T16:02:26Z")

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Very strange, this worked for me as well. I didn’t see anything in the iOS app, but it was there in the desktop app.

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**Author:** ![japc](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/japc/32/64877_2.png) [@japc](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/japc)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2022, 9:49pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/introducing-ai-ftp-detection/69122/1489 "2022-06-06T21:49:10Z")

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I also have a Ramp test scheduled for tomorrow but I can’t see the FTP prediction option on the iOS App.

I’m pretty sure it was there during the weekend.

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**Author:** ![Slowmo](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/slowmo/32/78323_2.png) [@Slowmo](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/Slowmo)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2022, 10:02pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/introducing-ai-ftp-detection/69122/1490 "2022-06-06T22:02:13Z")

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Came here to see if anybody else had FTP detection missing in the app, so I am not the only one. It is past midnight for me an I have a test scheduled, but no button to detect my FTP. Hopefully it will work during the day. I will try the desktop app if it does not.

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**Author:** ![briansteve77](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/eada6e/32.png) [@briansteve77](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/briansteve77)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2022, 10:05pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/introducing-ai-ftp-detection/69122/1491 "2022-06-06T22:05:24Z")

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Mine is missing too. It was scheduled for today, the button didn’t appear so I moved the workout to tomorrow. Will see what tomorrow brings!!

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**Author:** ![mcneese.chad](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/mcneese.chad/32/15056_2.png) [@mcneese.chad](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/mcneese.chad)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2022, 10:06pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/introducing-ai-ftp-detection/69122/1492 "2022-06-06T22:06:50Z")

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I know that TR added the AIFTPD option on the Calendar, but are you also checking the Career page to see if it is there still/instead (_since that is the only place it was found originally_)?

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**Author:** ![briansteve77](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/eada6e/32.png) [@briansteve77](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/briansteve77)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2022, 10:08pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/introducing-ai-ftp-detection/69122/1493 "2022-06-06T22:08:43Z")

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Hi Chad. Thanks. The button does not appear on either menu for me.

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**Author:** ![dazbert](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/dazbert/32/7746_2.png) [@dazbert](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/dazbert)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2022, 10:16pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/introducing-ai-ftp-detection/69122/1494 "2022-06-06T22:16:22Z")

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Just added a ramp test to my calendar in IOS app. AI detection is showing in the workout on the calendar page, also showing in the career page.

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**Author:** ![IvyAudrain](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/ivyaudrain/32/47471_2.png) [@IvyAudrain](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/IvyAudrain)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2022, 10:51pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/introducing-ai-ftp-detection/69122/1495 "2022-06-06T22:51:30Z")

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Sorry for the trouble all. We’re aware of the inconsistencies between apps and desktop, career and calendar for AI FTP Detection use _visibility_, and we’re actively working on the fix!

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**Author:** ![Ken](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/ken/32/96932_2.png) [@Ken](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/Ken)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2022, 11:45pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/introducing-ai-ftp-detection/69122/1496 "2022-06-06T23:45:11Z")

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Thanks for the update. I’m having the same issue and was wondering if it was a feature where you could only use AI detection so many times before you had to do an actual amp test.

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**Author:** ![Slowmo](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/slowmo/32/78323_2.png) [@Slowmo](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/Slowmo)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2022, 5:57am UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/introducing-ai-ftp-detection/69122/1497 "2022-06-07T05:57:18Z")

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Now after 8 hours the detection button is back and I am good to go.

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**Author:** ![Lupusoff](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/d9b06d/32.png) [@Lupusoff](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/Lupusoff)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2022, 8:02am UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/introducing-ai-ftp-detection/69122/1498 "2022-06-07T08:02:01Z")

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Some positive feedback from me. After using the AI FTP prediction yesterday, I have done the replacement VO2 workout and after that workout my Garmin watch detected my new FTP which was just 1W different from the AI predicted. I must say I am very impressed! So thanks to TR for this tool!

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**Author:** ![Garf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bbce88/32.png) [@Garf](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/Garf)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2022, 10:04am UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/introducing-ai-ftp-detection/69122/1499 "2022-06-07T10:04:03Z")

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> [@pnzr](#):
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> Tbh, why bother. Everytime I raised my concerns with progression levels and AI ftp detection the answer was basically “working as intended”

I was thinking the same, but I can see your point: instead of keeping you between 7 and 9 with tiny FTP increases, it could bump you more and put you around 5.

For training it makes no difference (the workouts would have similar wattages), but it changes the “measured” FTP. And if you use that for race pacing, it’s not good for it to be off.

Why not do a ramp test though.

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**Author:** ![CJKeig](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/cjkeig/32/24922_2.png) [@CJKeig](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/CJKeig)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2022, 6:56pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/introducing-ai-ftp-detection/69122/1501 "2022-06-08T18:56:29Z")

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**A thought for how to improve the AI FTP Detection:**  
I think it would be worth modifying the feature so that the user can set the AI to automatically recalculate their FTP every day and then automatically update it for the user. I know that this would result in minute daily changes but it means that a user wouldn’t be cycling with a potentially out of date FTP, either too high or too low. The user would always be training in the right zones and there would be no settling in period after an FTP test etc. Curious what others think.

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