# 🎉 🎉 🎉 Introducing Adaptive Training! 🎉 🎉 🎉 **URL:** \ **Category:** TrainerRoad Software\ **Created:** [February 25, 2021, 4:01pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/introducing-adaptive-training/54025 "2021-02-25T16:01:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 203
**Author:** ![bobmcstuff](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/bobmcstuff/32/12893_2.png) [@bobmcstuff](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/bobmcstuff)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2021, 8:48am UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/introducing-adaptive-training/54025/4212 "2021-08-04T08:48:26Z")
Just for me - that seems to be fixed now. Must have been changed in the last few days since not long ago I was seeing big differences between the app and web. I guess it may be different between the apps though - I am on Android. ---
**Author:** ![IvyAudrain](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/ivyaudrain/32/47471_2.png) [@IvyAudrain](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/IvyAudrain)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2021, 10:20pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/introducing-adaptive-training/54025/4213 "2021-08-04T22:20:16Z")
That was more referring to inconsistencies in Progression Levels between web and apps, so anything else should be reported to [support@trainerroad.com](mailto:support@trainerroad.com) in case there’s a different issue or setting we can look into to help. 👍 ---
**Author:** ![RobertSims](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/robertsims/32/26170_2.png) [@RobertSims](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/RobertSims)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2021, 10:25pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/introducing-adaptive-training/54025/4214 "2021-08-04T22:25:49Z")
Sorry for asking but new to AT (got in today) and frankly this (and other AT thread) is too big to find anything! - Is there a FAQ page as people have been requesting? - How often do adaptations for workouts occur? - If I reject adaptations once for some workouts will it never look at them again or still offer adaptations in the future for those workouts (accidentally rejected all initial adaptations!)? - Am progress level for threshold seems v low at 2.7 when I was doing 4.5 threshold workouts just last week (althoughdid manually increase FTP by 5w since then)…does that sound right? Maybe just ignore initial adaptation suggestions for threshold, do another 4.5ish workout to remind levels where I’m at? ---
**Author:** ![IvyAudrain](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/ivyaudrain/32/47471_2.png) [@IvyAudrain](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/IvyAudrain)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2021, 10:45pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/introducing-adaptive-training/54025/4215 "2021-08-04T22:45:06Z")
> [@RobertSims](#): > > Is there a FAQ page as people have been requesting? ALMOST haha, as a support team, we are working through the thousands of posts and inquiries to try to decide what questions and points of confusion are _most_ relevant and more commonly asked. Making sure the help document isn’t too cluttered and overwhelming is a task in itself, too, we’re nearly there though! > [@RobertSims](#): > > How often do adaptations for workouts occur? Every time you complete (or miss) a workout, you have the potential to receive an adaptation. > [@RobertSims](#): > > If I reject adaptations once for some workouts will it never look at them again or still offer adaptations in the future for those workouts (accidentally rejected all initial adaptations!)? If I understand your question correctly, the latter. Ie, if you reject an adaption for a workout next week, but tomorrow miss your workout, you may be asked again to adapt that same workout next week. > [@RobertSims](#): > > progress level for threshold seems v low at 2.7 The Progression Logic may not look like what you always expect upon completing a workout, but if you’re concerned a workout wasn’t accounted for or your levels are wrong/something is amiss, feel free to reach out to [support@trainerroad.com](mailto:support@trainerroad.com). There’s a lot of confusion surrounding PLs and what influences their change, its important to keep in mind that this is simply a visibility tool to the work you’re doing, and requires some trust that Plan Builder and your Adaptations will have you covered if you’re falling short in one of those areas. 🕶 ---
**Author:** ![RobertSims](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/robertsims/32/26170_2.png) [@RobertSims](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/RobertSims)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2021, 10:50pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/introducing-adaptive-training/54025/4216 "2021-08-04T22:50:34Z")
Thanks Ivy, so to clarify adaptations can happen basically everytime I either do a workout or miss a workout (I only train indoors on TR so no outdoor workout issues). Next time I do or skip a workout all my workouts will be assessed again to see if adaptations are needed, regardless if I rejected adaptations for that workout previously? Also where can I change settings to always accept adaptations etc…says in my account but I don’t see it. Thanks ---
**Author:** ![mcneese.chad](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/mcneese.chad/32/15056_2.png) [@mcneese.chad](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/mcneese.chad)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2021, 10:52pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/introducing-adaptive-training/54025/4217 "2021-08-04T22:52:58Z")
> [@RobertSims](#): > > Next time I do or skip a workout all my workouts will be assessed again to see if adaptations are needed, regardless if I rejected adaptations for that workout previously? - Yes. One point to mention if you haven’t seen it. You MUST be using a plan created using Plan Builder to get any adaptions. Manually added plans (ad hoc) are not supported at this time. ---
**Author:** ![RobertSims](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/robertsims/32/26170_2.png) [@RobertSims](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/RobertSims)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2021, 10:57pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/introducing-adaptive-training/54025/4218 "2021-08-04T22:57:22Z")
Great, thanks. Yes using plan builder. Also how do I tell AT about a planned holiday or similar…I remember people discussing this I think! ---
**Author:** ![mcneese.chad](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/mcneese.chad/32/15056_2.png) [@mcneese.chad](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/mcneese.chad)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2021, 10:58pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/introducing-adaptive-training/54025/4219 "2021-08-04T22:58:33Z")
Add an Annotation on your Calendar with the date range, and any of the 3 options on the right (all but Notes) lead to Plan changes. ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/original/3X/3/e/3eabf823bb28b787e035757d8c8ecca3c86b7d69.png) ---
**Author:** ![Textuality](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/textuality/32/72636_2.png) [@Textuality](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/Textuality)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2021, 11:24pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/introducing-adaptive-training/54025/4220 "2021-08-04T23:24:42Z")
Just a note to say that the last four of my sessions are showing as “Missing Response” on the website, but I definitely put them in on the app (and gave time to sync). ---
**Author:** ![AlphaDogCycling](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/alphadogcycling/32/13863_2.png) [@AlphaDogCycling](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/AlphaDogCycling)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2021, 3:15am UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/introducing-adaptive-training/54025/4221 "2021-08-05T03:15:40Z")
Are you on the latest beta version? At least for me, the latest beta fixed the sync delay problem which is what caused the missing response. Sync delay: prior to the recent (maybe 2 ago) beta, the only reliable way I had to get the TR Mac app to sync the survey response was to quit the app, and the re-launch it. If I didn’t do this, then I had to leave the app open for anywhere from a couple of minutes to over 15 minutes before the survey response would show up online. ---
**Author:** ![PWeber](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/pweber/32/54442_2.png) [@PWeber](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/PWeber)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2021, 4:48am UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/introducing-adaptive-training/54025/4222 "2021-08-05T04:48:36Z")
I have struggled today in my Forum searching nearly as much as i struggled in my workout. Both failures… Does anyone have the link to the guide to correctly answering the Struggle Survey that I think @IvyAudrain posted at some point? I had no legs today, failed an Achievable workout, and selected Fatigue as the reason, but that might not be right as it did not trigger any adaptions ---
**Author:** ![fl33tStA](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/fl33tsta/32/174372_2.png) [@fl33tStA](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/fl33tStA)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2021, 4:50am UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/introducing-adaptive-training/54025/4223 "2021-08-05T04:50:38Z")
i am in contact with support, atm it looks like all Desktop Apps have sync probs (beta and production on MacOS and WIN), for example, when i set a running workout to finish, i have to start the App, try a sync on calendar, nothing happens, when i close and start the app again, the calendar is synced correctly with the finished run workout, same thing for workout associations and so ---
**Author:** ![AntC](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/antc/32/7725_2.png) [@AntC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/AntC)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2021, 6:16am UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/introducing-adaptive-training/54025/4224 "2021-08-05T06:16:47Z")
![Screen Shot 2021-07-12 at 8.16.23 AM](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/original/3X/9/8/98921a1ba673e0647657590b23dc3053f3f841bd.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![PWeber](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/pweber/32/54442_2.png) [@PWeber](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/PWeber)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2021, 7:17am UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/introducing-adaptive-training/54025/4225 "2021-08-05T07:17:09Z")
Thanks, but I’m after the one regarding responses to the Strggle survey. I’ll keep looking. ---
**Author:** ![Crownan](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/crownan/32/103116_2.png) [@Crownan](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/Crownan)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2021, 9:17am UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/introducing-adaptive-training/54025/4226 "2021-08-05T09:17:38Z")
Survey for outside unstructured rides on web is not loading. When I click into “update survey response” it just gives me a spinning thingy and no options load. ---
**Author:** ![AldridgePrior](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/aldridgeprior/32/139066_2.png) [@AldridgePrior](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/AldridgePrior)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2021, 9:40am UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/introducing-adaptive-training/54025/4227 "2021-08-05T09:40:29Z")
> [@PWeber](#): > > I had no legs today, failed an Achievable workout, and selected Fatigue as the reason, but that might not be right as it did not trigger any adaptions If you inform the machine that the reason you failed a workout was that you were tired - presumably implying you could’ve completed it if not tired - then it seems reasonable (sensible) to me that your PL for that energy system/training zone shouldn’t really be adjusted downwards, and thus future workouts in that system probably don’t require adaptations. Clearly, I don’t know if that’s what actually happened, but that behaviour would seem reasonable to me. If, come my next workout, I _knew_ I was still carrying too much fatigue making a failure nailed-on, I’d consider either selecting an easier Alternate at a lower Difficulty Level, or if really knackered choose perhaps a recovery workout or take the day off. ---
**Author:** ![TheGearedGuitarist](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/thegearedguitarist/32/123602_2.png) [@TheGearedGuitarist](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/TheGearedGuitarist)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2021, 10:35am UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/introducing-adaptive-training/54025/4228 "2021-08-05T10:35:01Z")
Same for me ---
**Author:** ![ukjim](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/ukjim/32/28963_2.png) [@ukjim](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/ukjim)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2021, 10:35am UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/introducing-adaptive-training/54025/4229 "2021-08-05T10:35:45Z")
Apologies of this has been answered before but it’s a monster thread. When do I need to retest ftp (if at all)? After 8 weeks or so I feel like my fitness has increased. I am at 7.6 vo2 and finding workouts easy enough. Does at prompt a test or do I just do one when I feel it’s needed? ---
**Author:** ![bobw](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/bobw/32/24759_2.png) [@bobw](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/bobw)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2021, 10:38am UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/introducing-adaptive-training/54025/4230 "2021-08-05T10:38:10Z")
Do one when it appears in your plan. If you are keen (weirdo!) then sub out one workout in the week following a recovery week. TR have said that the ultimate aim for AT is for you to not need to do an FTP test but that’s probably some way off. ---
**Author:** ![ukjim](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/ukjim/32/28963_2.png) [@ukjim](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/ukjim)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2021, 10:41am UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/introducing-adaptive-training/54025/4231 "2021-08-05T10:41:46Z")
Never keen on ftp tests as they make me cry. Weirdly I don’t have any scheduled tests in my calendar. I will add one for next week as I am on a recovery week atm. Thanks for the reply. [Previous page](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/introducing-adaptive-training/54025.md?page=202) [Next page](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/introducing-adaptive-training/54025.md?page=204)