# INSCYD test - report included **URL:** \ **Category:** Training\ **Created:** [November 18, 2022, 10:40am UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/inscyd-test-report-included/77828 "2022-11-18T10:40:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![mich4el](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@mich4el](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/mich4el)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2022, 10:40am UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/inscyd-test-report-included/77828/1 "2022-11-18T10:40:44Z")
Hello I did my first INSCYD test and I’m a bit confused. AT threshold was very low, oxygen zone and FATMAX were also very low. About 1.5 months ago I did an FTP test outside 276w 20min which gave me an FTP of 263w and here is AT 218w. Do you have any suggestions? ![Zrzut ekranu 2022-11-18 o 11.29.17](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/original/3X/5/f/5f00129218ed2ecb542d83145f35314fb97bbcc2.png) ![Zrzut ekranu 2022-11-18 o 11.29.30](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/original/3X/d/e/de9f0d52679a88f3b8107049b8b03b94a403dd48.jpeg) ![Zrzut ekranu 2022-11-18 o 11.29.37](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/original/3X/3/6/36187ed5804258c5b9804bbe0dbe2587ad56c8d2.jpeg) ![Zrzut ekranu 2022-11-18 o 11.29.44](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/original/3X/a/f/afc52df67f38fd775f74b582173aaf5dd1437f75.png) ![Zrzut ekranu 2022-11-18 o 11.29.53](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/original/3X/5/b/5b1dc9a8f68cf5021b6106f04411a8fd29ff3c02.png) ![Zrzut ekranu 2022-11-18 o 11.30.03](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/original/3X/a/b/abd3fbe76b052701cf40c70eddb48b123fdc3449.png) ---
**Author:** ![wattage\_narco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f14d63/32.png) [@wattage\_narco](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/wattage_narco)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2022, 12:01pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/inscyd-test-report-included/77828/2 "2022-11-18T12:01:00Z")
I’d see how long you can hold 260w, if that’s 30-35min+ then call it good. Not familiar with inscyd but if you can do 270 for 20mins, then 218w AT sounds bum. Were you hooked up to a metabolic cart for this test? ---
**Author:** ![mich4el](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@mich4el](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/mich4el)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2022, 12:03pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/inscyd-test-report-included/77828/3 "2022-11-18T12:03:37Z")
I think I can hold 235w 1 hour now, 260w maybe 30min but sounds hard ---
**Author:** ![BillyWaldman](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/billywaldman/32/122094_2.png) [@BillyWaldman](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/BillyWaldman)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2022, 1:00pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/inscyd-test-report-included/77828/4 "2022-11-18T13:00:49Z")
Have you asked the people who created you result sheet? I hope some consultation is included with your results. ---
**Author:** ![mich4el](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@mich4el](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/mich4el)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2022, 1:04pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/inscyd-test-report-included/77828/5 "2022-11-18T13:04:28Z")
yes, but results are strange also for them, I can put high numbers example 1minute =~ 10wkg, also 20s 827w avg and strugling long intervals. I know in that case I need medio zone with low cadence, but do I really need to ride it with zones assigned to INSCYD report. Medio zone here is about 179w which I normally ride Base training. Fatmax 138w ? 🙂 This is lower than my active recovery rides 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![KWcycling](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/kwcycling/32/72152_2.png) [@KWcycling](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/KWcycling)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2022, 1:44pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/inscyd-test-report-included/77828/6 "2022-11-18T13:44:33Z")
I imagine I would have similarly surprising results if I did one too. I think they are correct. For example, I tend to ride endurance at like 215-245w and I’m about 74kg with ftp of 360 (20min test of 380) and vo2max of 72. But I see riders like MVDP also riding endurance at 215-245 and he prob has ftp of 400-420, so I’m sure INSCYD would tell me to tone it down a lot. I just don’t really care bc I’m looking to get a good workout after work! Looking at those numbers seem pretty reasonable for your vo2max of 61 and body mass of 63kg. ---
**Author:** ![cagiva\_wmx125](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/cagiva_wmx125/32/17695_2.png) [@cagiva\_wmx125](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/cagiva_wmx125)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2022, 2:14pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/inscyd-test-report-included/77828/7 "2022-11-18T14:14:53Z")
i’m a little confused about the numbers and references. you are saying your AT is aerobic threshold, or max lactate steady state @ 218 watts? fat max @ 138 watts? the fist thing which stands out to me is your lactate numbers at low watts. i would question having values of 0.2 mmol. fwik typical aerobic threshold numbers are around 2mmol, with resting levels \>1mmol, and your readings are out of range. are these lactate numbers above base? if the mask wasn’t well fitted you could be off. you really know that 138 watts is wrong ---
**Author:** ![mich4el](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@mich4el](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/mich4el)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2022, 2:29pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/inscyd-test-report-included/77828/8 "2022-11-18T14:29:16Z")
I know nothing. Now… I’m thinking when I ride 144w (active recovery) it is not like 1/10 RPE, more like 3/10. Maybe there is some true with these numbers. INSCYD tell me 218w is AT ---
**Author:** ![splash](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ac8455/32.png) [@splash](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/splash)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2022, 3:11pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/inscyd-test-report-included/77828/9 "2022-11-18T15:11:01Z")
How many hours per week do you usually ride? ---
**Author:** ![mich4el](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@mich4el](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/mich4el)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2022, 3:39pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/inscyd-test-report-included/77828/10 "2022-11-18T15:39:02Z")
8-10 hours ---
**Author:** ![mich4el](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@mich4el](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/mich4el)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2022, 3:56pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/inscyd-test-report-included/77828/12 "2022-11-18T15:56:52Z")
yes 218w is my MLSS ---
**Author:** ![cagiva\_wmx125](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/cagiva_wmx125/32/17695_2.png) [@cagiva\_wmx125](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/cagiva_wmx125)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2022, 4:05pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/inscyd-test-report-included/77828/14 "2022-11-18T16:05:46Z")
@Bbt67 just want to be clear what the OP means or understands by the various thresholds (aerobic, mlss etc). one other observation i would make is the time since the last ftp test, and the power sources could be different. something doesn’t add up. ---
**Author:** ![mich4el](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@mich4el](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/mich4el)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2022, 4:07pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/inscyd-test-report-included/77828/15 "2022-11-18T16:07:03Z")
I ride 5 years. Last 24months is regular structured training. I’m really good in races with short 1minute efforts. I want to be a better climber with longer intervals, because of my low weight. I know that high Vlamax like I have its not good for be a better climber. What is the proper power based od INSCYD zones I should do SS training? Looks like INSCYD set zones based MLSS power not FTP, right? which zones should I take? 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![mich4el](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@mich4el](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/mich4el)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2022, 4:18pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/inscyd-test-report-included/77828/17 "2022-11-18T16:18:46Z")
This INSCYD test was outside ---
**Author:** ![mich4el](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@mich4el](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/mich4el)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2022, 4:33pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/inscyd-test-report-included/77828/19 "2022-11-18T16:33:57Z")
Yes, power meter was the same, favero assioma, calibrated every time. I was pretty confident with power data during both test. FTP test was about 2 months ago. INSCYD test after detraining period (1,5months after FTP test) So what is my SS zone basing MLSS=218w? Long fatmax sessions @138w target? ---
**Author:** ![cagiva\_wmx125](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/cagiva_wmx125/32/17695_2.png) [@cagiva\_wmx125](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/cagiva_wmx125)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2022, 6:33pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/inscyd-test-report-included/77828/20 "2022-11-18T18:33:19Z")
ISM did refer to this recently. how pros with very high ftp numbers cannot do endurance training at 2mmol, because training at 300watts plus for hours, comes with a massive cost, energy turnover, stress on the system. mere mortals can train at 2mmol because the overall stress is lower (200 watts is easier to service and recover from) ---
**Author:** ![WindWarrior](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/windwarrior/32/84679_2.png) [@WindWarrior](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/WindWarrior)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2022, 9:43pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/inscyd-test-report-included/77828/22 "2022-11-18T21:43:02Z")
> [@mich4el](#): > > About 1.5 months ago I did an FTP test outside 276w 20min which gave me an FTP of 263w and here is AT 218w. ok, so the next question is what changed over the 1.5 months… > [@mich4el](#): > > FTP test was about 2 months ago. INSCYD test after detraining period (1,5months after FTP test) How much detraining? My ftp is something like 270, similar to yours. Based on the past, I would expect an FTP of 200-22 if I: - stopped riding for 4-5 weeks - started riding again for a week or two - did an FTP test or estimated from power-to-HR ---
**Author:** ![mich4el](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@mich4el](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/mich4el)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2022, 9:17am UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/inscyd-test-report-included/77828/23 "2022-11-19T09:17:57Z")
Detraining was 3 weeks, but still 400-300-250 tss with easy rides. Last detraining week was INSCYD test. Test was 3 days. 1st day: 20s + 3min, 2nd day: recovery, 3rd day: 5min + 10min. All tests was 100% on the saddle, and that was huge difference for me. Test FTP 2 months ago was with possibility to stand on my pedals. ---
**Author:** ![Kipstrong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/eb9ed0/32.png) [@Kipstrong](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/Kipstrong)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2022, 9:16pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/inscyd-test-report-included/77828/24 "2022-11-19T21:16:41Z")
Your 10 mins (600s) power on the test raw data is 260ish watts. So from that with the power curve it will show a low ftp. You can bang those numbers into a Critical power calculator and I bet the CP and FTP numbers are similar. Maybe you didn’t do a good 10 mins. Do another 10 mins and see if it changes drastically. If so contact the person who did the report and the inscyd help desk will recalculate it for you I’m sure. ---
**Author:** ![mich4el](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@mich4el](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/mich4el)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2022, 9:30pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/inscyd-test-report-included/77828/25 "2022-11-19T21:30:34Z")
10min was after 5min all out effort, maybe I didnt recovered enough between these two efforts, normally I’d handle 10min 290w, but this is how INSCYD protocol looks like [Next page](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/inscyd-test-report-included/77828.md?page=2)