# Incorrect progression

**URL:** <https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/incorrect-progression/72080>\
**Category:** Training\
**Created:** [April 27, 2022, 6:43pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/incorrect-progression/72080 "2022-04-27T18:43:59Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 12\
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**Author:** ![Jkauffman](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/jkauffman/32/129534_2.png) [@Jkauffman](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/Jkauffman)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2022, 6:43pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/incorrect-progression/72080/1 "2022-04-27T18:43:59Z")

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So I just “ completed” a V02 work out. It was rated “breakthrough”. Because it was 3.2 over my current Progression.  
During the workout I had to stop two or three times and backpedal. It was just too hard for me.  
At the end of the workout I was asked why it was hard for me and I said the intensity was too much.  
Despite this, it bumped up my progression level 3.1 (to 9.1 from 6) This seems like too much. Just wondering if I should accept this?

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**Author:** ![mailman](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/mailman/32/101794_2.png) [@mailman](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/mailman)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2022, 6:52pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/incorrect-progression/72080/3 "2022-04-27T18:52:09Z")

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Did it give you the normal survey before the struggle survey?

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**Author:** ![varmstrong](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/varmstrong/32/80523_2.png) [@varmstrong](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/varmstrong)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2022, 6:55pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/incorrect-progression/72080/4 "2022-04-27T18:55:27Z")

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Personally I’d choose an alternate of that workout in the 7.x range and do that as my next VO2 max workout. Rate it accordingly, and AT should make the proper adaptations.

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**Author:** ![rkoswald](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/rkoswald/32/28273_2.png) [@rkoswald](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/rkoswald)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2022, 6:55pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/incorrect-progression/72080/5 "2022-04-27T18:55:55Z")

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I had a similar issue with the first VO2 workout after accepting a new AI FTP Detection (in lieu of a ramp test). I forgot to check my PLs before and after the AI FTP D, but I don’t think they changed. I attempted the VO2 workout anyway (I knew better) and back pedaled during the last couple of intervals. AI gave me the Rating survey, I selected Very Hard, then it asked why, to which I responded with Intensity. It still bumped my VO2 PL up more rather than dropping / maintaining it, as I would have expected. I ended up deleting my Plan Builder plan and re-doing it to force proper adaptations based on my new FTP.

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**Author:** ![mcneese.chad](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/mcneese.chad/32/15056_2.png) [@mcneese.chad](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/mcneese.chad)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2022, 7:03pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/incorrect-progression/72080/6 "2022-04-27T19:03:33Z")

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Please contact [support@trainerroad.com](mailto:support@trainerroad.com) for issues like this. There are some red flags here, but we have far too little info to be of any real help here. TR can see the full picture and give you better guidance.

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**Author:** ![Jkauffman](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/jkauffman/32/129534_2.png) [@Jkauffman](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/Jkauffman)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2022, 7:13pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/incorrect-progression/72080/7 "2022-04-27T19:13:26Z")

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yes, and I said “all out”

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**Author:** ![mailman](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/mailman/32/101794_2.png) [@mailman](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/mailman)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2022, 7:25pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/incorrect-progression/72080/8 "2022-04-27T19:25:26Z")

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As Chad says, contact support. Seems to me the logical step would be you wouldn’t get the PL.

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**Author:** ![Jkauffman](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/jkauffman/32/129534_2.png) [@Jkauffman](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/Jkauffman)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2022, 7:41pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/incorrect-progression/72080/9 "2022-04-27T19:41:23Z")

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done

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**Author:** ![IvyAudrain](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/ivyaudrain/32/47471_2.png) [@IvyAudrain](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/IvyAudrain)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2022, 9:31pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/incorrect-progression/72080/10 "2022-04-27T21:31:02Z")

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For discussion purposes, feel free to update us here how it turns out with support’s insight!

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**Author:** ![Jkauffman](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/jkauffman/32/129534_2.png) [@Jkauffman](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/Jkauffman)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2022, 9:52pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/incorrect-progression/72080/11 "2022-04-27T21:52:49Z")

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Will do!!

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**Author:** ![Jkauffman](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/jkauffman/32/129534_2.png) [@Jkauffman](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/Jkauffman)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2022, 2:01am UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/incorrect-progression/72080/12 "2022-04-29T02:01:35Z")

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I heard from support (of course).  
They felt that because I did complete the workout and only backpedaled twice, that it’s reasonable for AI to bump up my progression level. That does seem reasonable.  
But not looking forward to the next V02max workout!

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**Author:** ![IvyAudrain](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/ivyaudrain/32/47471_2.png) [@IvyAudrain](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/IvyAudrain)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2022, 5:41pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/incorrect-progression/72080/13 "2022-04-29T17:41:05Z")

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Thanks for following up! Sounds right, keep crushing it!
