# GCN+ being closed, December 2023 **URL:** \ **Category:** Uncategorized\ **Created:** [November 15, 2023, 11:51am UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/gcn-being-closed-december-2023/88307 "2023-11-15T11:51:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Power13](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/power13/32/92171_2.png) [@Power13](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/Power13)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2023, 1:40pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/gcn-being-closed-december-2023/88307/109 "2023-11-16T13:40:01Z")
> [@RONDAL](#): > > So for those in Canada and other regions, what are the alternatives now available that ISNT flo. We don’t know yet……Discovery / WB has said more details will be available in the near future. The good news is that they are a global streaming company and they also have the numbers of subscribers in other regions, so they have a good idea of what the market is. The likelihood is that they will use one of their other platforms for regions outside the US, we just don’t know what it will look like yet. ---
**Author:** ![HLaB](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/hlab/32/60448_2.png) [@HLaB](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/HLaB)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2023, 1:49pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/gcn-being-closed-december-2023/88307/110 "2023-11-16T13:49:01Z")
[Steephill.tv](http://Steephill.tv) was a good resource ( 🏴‍☠️ ) but they seemed to pull out when GCN+ came along. GCN are indicating themselves it was a Warners organisational decision, rather than a profitability issue. I’ll guess we’ll never really know though and you are right folk more than likely would have paid twice the price for their service! ---
**Author:** ![ChefAcB](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/chefacb/32/144835_2.png) [@ChefAcB](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/ChefAcB)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2023, 2:50pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/gcn-being-closed-december-2023/88307/111 "2023-11-16T14:50:51Z")
I was willing to pay $100 a year for gcn+. The whole thing just stinks especially for us in North America. ---
**Author:** ![mcneese.chad](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/mcneese.chad/32/15056_2.png) [@mcneese.chad](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/mcneese.chad)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2023, 3:18pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/gcn-being-closed-december-2023/88307/112 "2023-11-16T15:18:32Z")
> **[Escape Collective • Emergency episode: The demise of GCN+ and the GCN app •...](https://podcastaddict.com/escape-collective/episode/166969634)** > > News dropped on Wednesday that GCN+ and the GCN app will be shuttered in December. We have thoughts. We have emotions. Caley Fretz, Joe Lindsey, and Cosmo Catalano got together to talk through it. ---
**Author:** ![otnemeM](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/otnemem/32/129036_2.png) [@otnemeM](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/otnemeM)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2023, 3:37pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/gcn-being-closed-december-2023/88307/113 "2023-11-16T15:37:19Z")
> [@danielm](#): > > I wonder when my classic Eurosport “annual pass” (£39.99) will be retired and I’ll be moved over to Discovery+… Shouldn’t be long now. The way they want to do it, they want everyone on the same thing. It’s a bold strategy, Cotton… ---
**Author:** ![Power13](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/power13/32/92171_2.png) [@Power13](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/Power13)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2023, 4:11pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/gcn-being-closed-december-2023/88307/114 "2023-11-16T16:11:39Z")
Pretty much just a re-hash of what we already know…but all contained in one article. > **[What happens to live cycling coverage after GCN+ shuts down? - Escape Collective](https://escapecollective.com/what-happens-to-live-cycling-coverage-after-gcn-shuts-down/)** > > There's a short term (chaos) and a long term, and they'll likely look very different. ---
**Author:** ![AJS914](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/919ad9/32.png) [@AJS914](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/AJS914)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2023, 4:20pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/gcn-being-closed-december-2023/88307/115 "2023-11-16T16:20:03Z")
> [@ChefAcB](#): > > I was willing to pay $100 a year for gcn+. The whole thing just stinks especially for us in North America. I’d pay $100/year too. We must remember that they allowed us to fly under the radar with a VPN. They could have easily shut it down. Every other service (Google, Amazon Prime) detects when you are a VPN. Honestly, it felt too good to be true. I was wondering when the ASO or some rights holder would complain and shut us down. ---
**Author:** ![kiwifyx](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/kiwifyx/32/46783_2.png) [@kiwifyx](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/kiwifyx)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2023, 4:40pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/gcn-being-closed-december-2023/88307/116 "2023-11-16T16:40:18Z")
1. GCN+ with VPN, to me, was the complete peak of cycling tv coverage and documentaries. Amazing for $50/year. 2. NBC Gold was a partial solution with terrible commentary, with only a thin slice of races. I think I did two years of this. 3. The recent delayed highlights on Youtube (by GCN I believe) were actually really good, and I watched that a bit in 2023, even though I had GCN+ too. 4. FloTV and some other services with pretty expensive monthly subscriptions that didn’t appeal. I think I did one month of Flo or Sling and it was just all add’s and terrible commentary. I’m pretty sure I signed up for a month and cancelled after one day. If there’s a Discovery+ option that sits somewhere between 1 and 2 above, then I’m in. And I’ll happily do PayPal and VPN to watch it. If there isn’t at least good extended highlights on YouTube, then I will have no option but to stop following cycling. Which will be a great shame after following pretty closely for nearly 25 years. ---
**Author:** ![ljuvlig-bawdy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/ljuvlig-bawdy/32/114749_2.png) [@ljuvlig-bawdy](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/ljuvlig-bawdy)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2023, 4:57pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/gcn-being-closed-december-2023/88307/117 "2023-11-16T16:57:59Z")
> [@HLaB](#): > > rather than a profitability issue. Organisational reasons at least make sense, sort of anyhow. I was trying to work out how shuttering it would save enough money. Since they’re still streaming the races then CDN, encoding, player, infrastructure and assorted costs will remain broadly similar, maybe slightly reduced domain costs but other than the app team (which considering the state of it at times I don’t think can be much) they’re not going to save very much at all. Although I feel they’re going to lose more income from people not moving over than they gain with the more expensive subscription. I know I’m not subbing, discovery in the past has been bloody terrible for closed captioning on lots of their channels, which in my household is a deal breaker. ---
**Author:** ![tshortt](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/tshortt/32/3100_2.png) [@tshortt](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/tshortt)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2023, 5:50pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/gcn-being-closed-december-2023/88307/118 "2023-11-16T17:50:11Z")
> [@AJS914](#): > > We must remember that they allowed us to fly under the radar with a VPN. They could have easily shut it down. Every other service (Google, Amazon Prime) detects when you are a VPN. This is also a strategy (my company does it). Not saying that is what they were up to, but it is more common than not in this space (think sharing Netflix password). Early on it is usually more beneficial to relax (or completely disregard) enforcement of VPN usage or sharing accounts. If you are _already a big player_ (Google, Amazon Prime), enforce it. If not, give the drug away for free (but not really, but sure, but not really, but ok…wink, wink youngsters with no money anyway), get 'em addicted, then go ahead and take that $20 that they are more than willing to pay at this point. That will at least cover the cost, time, and resources it takes to do the actual enforcement, which in and of itself can be costly. ---
**Author:** ![AJS914](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/919ad9/32.png) [@AJS914](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/AJS914)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2023, 6:03pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/gcn-being-closed-december-2023/88307/119 "2023-11-16T18:03:37Z")
I understand what GCN is doing but the other players, whose content they are allowing to slip by a VPN are much bigger (ASO, NBC/Peacock, Eurosport). I’m honestly surprised that those other players have allowed it to go on. ---
**Author:** ![Power13](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/power13/32/92171_2.png) [@Power13](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/Power13)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2023, 7:36pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/gcn-being-closed-december-2023/88307/120 "2023-11-16T19:36:11Z")
> [@tshortt](#): > > Early on it is usually more beneficial to relax (or completely disregard) enforcement of VPN usage or sharing accounts. Also worth noting that the complaints would not have come from GCN, as they are benefitting from the VPN usage. The complaints would have come from the license holders in other regions, who were not getting those viewers because they were going “around” the system to get the GCN coverage. ---
**Author:** ![Lydiagould](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/lydiagould/32/12893_2.png) [@Lydiagould](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/Lydiagould)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2023, 8:29pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/gcn-being-closed-december-2023/88307/121 "2023-11-16T20:29:13Z")
Very well explained 👍 ---
**Author:** ![Power13](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/power13/32/92171_2.png) [@Power13](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/Power13)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2023, 8:48pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/gcn-being-closed-december-2023/88307/122 "2023-11-16T20:48:02Z")
> [@mcneese.chad](#): > > [Escape Collective • Emergency episode: The demise of GCN+ and the GCN app • Podcast Addict](https://podcastaddict.com/escape-collective/episode/166969634) Really good pod…definitely worth a listen. Lots of lingering raw emotion for those guys from last year. ---
**Author:** ![DXR](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7cd45c/32.png) [@DXR](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/DXR)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2023, 8:53pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/gcn-being-closed-december-2023/88307/123 "2023-11-16T20:53:49Z")
> **[Streaming service FloSports settles a second $2.6 million class action lawsuit](https://www.cyclingnews.com/news/streaming-service-flosports-settles-a-second-dollar26-million-class-action-lawsuit/)** > > Live streaming service takes a hit over automatic renewals, Facebook pixel use ---
**Author:** ![Skyewalkr](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/skyewalkr/32/44431_2.png) [@Skyewalkr](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/Skyewalkr)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2023, 9:03pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/gcn-being-closed-december-2023/88307/124 "2023-11-16T21:03:51Z")
this is amateur talk. learn how to cloak your vpn man… ---
**Author:** ![pvolb](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/pvolb/32/136994_2.png) [@pvolb](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/pvolb)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2023, 9:39pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/gcn-being-closed-december-2023/88307/125 "2023-11-16T21:39:50Z")
I’m intrigued. My vpn knowledge is that I purchased it to use gcn+, but if there is some cloaking thing I can learn how to do to continue to get coverage I’m 100% for operating in the shade (not professionally of course, no need to go to the SEC)[quote=“Skyewalkr, post:124, topic:88307, full:true”] this is amateur talk. learn how to cloak your vpn man… [/quote] ---
**Author:** ![Skyewalkr](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/skyewalkr/32/44431_2.png) [@Skyewalkr](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/Skyewalkr)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2023, 10:06pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/gcn-being-closed-december-2023/88307/126 "2023-11-16T22:06:32Z")
yeah it’s not hard at all. just do some research and you’ll get there. now, some entities (google) take a bit more effort than others (netflix), but none are as absurd as the as good old government (china, iran) with their dpi’s and whatnot, yet all are easily overcome. the man cannot keep you down if you don’t want to be kept down… _for legal purposes, this information is for entertainment purposes only_ ---
**Author:** ![berto2cj](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/berto2cj/32/4413_2.png) [@berto2cj](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/berto2cj)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2023, 11:21pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/gcn-being-closed-december-2023/88307/127 "2023-11-16T23:21:05Z")
So has anyone in the US gone ahead with D+ membership via vpn?! Which one of us is going first….someone has to ---
**Author:** ![patricksudol](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/patricksudol/32/133946_2.png) [@patricksudol](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/patricksudol)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2023, 11:27pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/gcn-being-closed-december-2023/88307/128 "2023-11-16T23:27:52Z")
So someone can correct me if I’m wrong but I thought a VPN wasn’t enough to get the “Euro” version of Discovery+? I thought it also involved registering in such a way to “trick” it into thinking you’re a European resident. I truthfully don’t know but I suppose you’re right. Someone has to try it. [Previous page](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/gcn-being-closed-december-2023/88307.md?page=5) [Next page](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/gcn-being-closed-december-2023/88307.md?page=7)