# FTP DROPPED 20 min FTP TEST FAILED

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**Created:** [July 24, 2024, 9:38am UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/ftp-dropped-20-min-ftp-test-failed/94962 "2024-07-24T09:38:15Z")\
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**Author:** ![mwglow15](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/mwglow15/32/28576_2.png) [@mwglow15](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/mwglow15)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2024, 6:37pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/ftp-dropped-20-min-ftp-test-failed/94962/75 "2024-07-29T18:37:51Z")

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> [@Wirt](#):
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> It would be pretty sad to not improve with every training block, no?

Sure, but not every improvement is an increase in FTP

> [@Wirt](#):
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> with that improvement, how do you “pin point” the new FTP?

You can feel it. If you go out and do 8-10min intervals. Start ~10W below threshold then add ~5W for each interval. You’ll notice when you get above threshold.

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**Author:** ![mwglow15](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/mwglow15/32/28576_2.png) [@mwglow15](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/mwglow15)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2024, 6:57pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/ftp-dropped-20-min-ftp-test-failed/94962/77 "2024-07-29T18:57:05Z")

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And I agreed with you. But I’m not talking about a 20min test here. Just that even without doing a ‘test’, if you have some experience and a well trained RPE you can go out and feel when you’re at FTP.

Without looking at power I’m pretty confident I could do a 4x10m threshold workout and get within 5W of what I know my FTP is.

I haven’t done an FTP test in over a year but I’ve still closely tracked my FTP improvements the whole time.

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**Author:** ![OreoCookie](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/oreocookie/32/8298_2.png) [@OreoCookie](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/OreoCookie)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2024, 6:38am UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/ftp-dropped-20-min-ftp-test-failed/94962/79 "2024-08-01T06:38:20Z")

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> [@Wirt](#):
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> And with that improvement, how do you “pin point” the new FTP?

In phases/training plans with steady state threshold work, that’s rather easy. However, I find it necessary to recalibrate my RPE meter regularly. Similar to zeroing a power meter.

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