Feature request: Percent of FTP instead of Watts (% of FTP)

I feel the same way, although knowing the absolute is more important as it translates to what I can do outside.

It could be nice (as a “nice to have”, not essential) to either have an option to toggle the abs W to %FTP, or have both, something like:

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I second this, as you grow the absolute numbers start to look intimidating

I have asked for this many times, All bike computers (Garmin etc) and other traning software, shows the % of FTP. Therefore, it would be easier to have the same on TR, to see the % of FTP rather then the actual Watt. Or atleast has a way to toggle or change the preference. Like when you tap on HR, it hides, why not the same behavior for Watt, to toggle between Watt and % FTP.

Also, to show the recommended Cadance. The text that tells you this info is only displayed shortly and if you miss it, you do not know the recommended cadence. Would be good to display this as well. So you do not need to watch the TR display constantly to not miss that info.

Thanks for listening.

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Yes, I think this should have been implemented years ago. Or earlier!

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A bit of tinfoil hat on this one… having an easy to remember % rather than more difficult to remember raw number (that changes with ftp) makes it easier to workout (or race) by feel without Trainer Road.

Put another way, If TR showed me these percentages I could pretty quickly associate them with RPE and use that to gauge efforts out on the road by feel or a glance at the garmin. This would make me a Faster Athlete which would be inline with their stated mission statement. But it might also make it slightly easier for me to not use Trainer Road.

Just a thought.

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+1

I really liked the mockup screenshot here.

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I am still surprised that TrainierRoad never officially replies to this “simple” request. I do not get it, in the workout description it says, intervals with % of your FTP etc. but on the screen, the raw number is displayed. Do not get it, it is not consistent. Please at least have an option to display it you want, or like the mockup screen that showed here in this thread. It is great done. Like it.
I have requested this for ages, and NO response from trainerRoad. It is sad that they ignore users inquiry. At least answer with a “no, will never do it” or “yes, in the next major release” or “maybe…”. Whatever, some reaction please.
Thanks!

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Hey there @Jnordh,

Sorry that we didn’t get back to you about this in the past. I’ll pass this feature request along to the rest of the team so we still know there’s interest in it. Other features are being prioritized right now, but we monitor threads like these ones to keep a pulse on what the community is interested in. Thanks for the note!

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Hello, thank you getting back. But exactly this response I have gotten 5-6 years ago, exact same “excuse”, working on other priorities. Then I hear nothing. This keep coming up time after time, The fix is really simple. Same UI as with HR Data. click it disappears, another click it shows the HR data. Why not do the same here, power raw value, click % of FTP… etc. This does not require a rewrite of the app. I am myself iOS developer, should be quite easy to implement, since the UI and data is available. Only a routine to handle the click on the power field, to switch the view.
thanks.

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Agree 100%. This should’ve been implemented years ago when first raised.

It’s a similar situation to how on mobile it took YEARS of posting here about the problem with how the responsiveness of the +/- Intensity adjustment buttons got worse and worse the further you went into a workout, becoming unusable once ~1.5 hrs into a workout due to the massive lag…

Eventually (fairly recently) @Nate_Pearson became aware of the issue here on the forum, said it’d finally be looked at, and was fixed within a couple of weeks. Fantastic!

That’s what should happen here - someone in control step in and just get the change done already. It’s no big deal to implement.

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Having been in both product management, and engineering, this isn’t as simple as you think, plus there are a ton of simple seeming requests like this that would all need to be scoped out and prioritized.

For example on this one:

  • To satisfy everyone, is the request a simple toggle of display FTP or % of FTP or both?
  • Where is this toggle? Settings? A shortcut that would allow on the fly switching? Both?
  • From an engineering perspective, you would need to identify everywhere in the code base of all applications (e.g., Mac, Windows, Android, iOS, etc.) where this change needs to be made, what it would impact (e.g., does anything need to be scaled in the UI / UX do to the smaller range of %FTP compared to absolute FTP)
  • Etc.

So not so simple / quick fix

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I do understand - taking any change from concept to production, however seemingly innocuous, is akin to an iceberg with the vast bulk of the work hidden beneath the water line. I’m an ex-software punter (from Silicon Valley’s finest to co-founding a startup) so not totally ignorant of what you write.

However… this is not a vast change, however you dress it up - and there’s already some comparable toggle functionality implemented with the Heart Rate field. Bearing in mind the centrality within TR of % of FTP for both workout descriptions and workout structure, I view the current inability to display power (& target) as % of FTP within the workout player as a big omission almost verging on a bug. Not actually a bug obvs, but a really glaring omission. Unpolished, but I’m not the boss! :laughing:

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UX mistake IMHO, and one that really bothered me in the past (pre-AT, when I had to adjust over-threshold workouts).

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I agree this is an oversight. I think a lot of people would have an easier time completing workouts post FTP increase if workouts were shown strictly as % of FTP, as changing FTP wouldn’t visually change the workout

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Would a whole integer percentage sufficiently accurate for all users? Would the percentage need to be displayed to one decimal point?

Let’s say a rider has an FTP of 350 and is doing Lyons (14 x 2 mins at 130% with 3 mins rest between intervals)

1% of FTP = 3.5 watts

Is that granularity sufficient? At what wattage should 99% display?