# Excluding Ramp Test from Personal Records **URL:** \ **Category:** Training\ **Tags:** ramp-test\ **Created:** [February 19, 2019, 7:53pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/excluding-ramp-test-from-personal-records/12066 "2019-02-19T19:53:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![jacksonianc](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/jacksonianc/32/63976_2.png) [@jacksonianc](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/jacksonianc)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2019, 7:53pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/excluding-ramp-test-from-personal-records/12066/1 "2019-02-19T19:53:44Z")
I realized that most of my PR’s below 20 minutes were from my ramp tests, and while it’s fun to see big numbers, I wanted to get a better idea of my real world outputs, i.e. workouts and races. I unchecked `Personal Records` in all of my Ramp Tests and now get to see a little more variety in my power curve. I’m interested in what other people think of this—anyone else tried it? ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/original/2X/a/ae1959d5f9f3563e4094de1b84c028d29be38eaf.png) ---
**Author:** ![ErickVH](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/erickvh/32/15689_2.png) [@ErickVH](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/ErickVH)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2019, 7:55pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/excluding-ramp-test-from-personal-records/12066/2 "2019-02-19T19:55:02Z")
Setting PRs is generally how I know that a ramp test was executed correctly. It captures a maximal effort, so why shouldn’t it be included in your power curve? ---
**Author:** ![larry](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/larry/32/12653_2.png) [@larry](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/larry)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2019, 8:01pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/excluding-ramp-test-from-personal-records/12066/3 "2019-02-19T20:01:30Z")
This is a good point. It may just be that your workouts and races aren’t fully testing the upper limits of your capabilities above your best power for 20 minutes. That’s fine, since we’re focused on other goals and training at different levels during those workouts, but the Ramp Test results _are_ a reflection of your “real world” capabilities! And those PRs are going to be useful in a race situation, if you know how long you have to pace a sprint finish, for example. ---
**Author:** ![jacksonianc](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/jacksonianc/32/63976_2.png) [@jacksonianc](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/jacksonianc)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2019, 8:18pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/excluding-ramp-test-from-personal-records/12066/4 "2019-02-19T20:18:10Z")
@ErickVH and @larry Both totally valid points, they are real results and should be factored in to the equation if I’m thinking about what I’m capable of. I think what it comes down to is they’ll always be there if I want to put them back in, but the ramp test isn’t as close of an approximation to a race as I’d like. It’s executed under controlled conditions, and it consists of one effort. If I’m looking at a race scenario, there will be more fatigue in the legs and more time on the bike. The workouts that now show up as my PR’s for the first 20 min of my power curve are closer to races—more than one effort, longer rides, etc. The other part is that I’m just curious to see what else comes up. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![larry](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/larry/32/12653_2.png) [@larry](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/larry)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2019, 8:22pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/excluding-ramp-test-from-personal-records/12066/5 "2019-02-19T20:22:59Z")
Fair point, and what you do with your Personal Records chart, Calendar, and all of TR is totally up to you! I get it though, it’s always fun to see where some of your power bests come from, and the results can be quite surprising! ---
**Author:** ![dbf](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/dbf/32/21411_2.png) [@dbf](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/dbf)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2019, 8:44pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/excluding-ramp-test-from-personal-records/12066/6 "2019-02-19T20:44:25Z")
LIke that time I tried to chase down a car that pissed me off and got a sprint PR? 🤣 ---
**Author:** ![larry](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/larry/32/12653_2.png) [@larry](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/larry)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2019, 8:49pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/excluding-ramp-test-from-personal-records/12066/7 "2019-02-19T20:49:35Z")
Hahaha, nothing like a good dose of anger to motivate the legs. 😅 ---
**Author:** ![TonyLPowell](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/tonylpowell/32/46435_2.png) [@TonyLPowell](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/TonyLPowell)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2019, 9:14pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/excluding-ramp-test-from-personal-records/12066/8 "2019-02-19T21:14:44Z")
I do the same thing. I’d rather see my PRs from workouts and riding, not a test. ---
**Author:** ![kevistraining](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/kevistraining/32/171237_2.png) [@kevistraining](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/kevistraining)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 9:23am UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/excluding-ramp-test-from-personal-records/12066/10 "2020-11-04T09:23:38Z")
I must be doing the ramp test wrong because it doesn’t feature on my power curve 🤔 When i do a 20min ftp test that that obviously shows up but the with the ramp test you are accumulating fatigue as you enter duration’s of higher power so I would have thought your output should be less that what you are truly capable of if fresh 🤷‍♂️ ---
**Author:** ![Crownan](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/crownan/32/103116_2.png) [@Crownan](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/Crownan)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2021, 10:26am UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/excluding-ramp-test-from-personal-records/12066/11 "2021-02-11T10:26:41Z")
Bizarrely, this doesn’t seem to work for me! I unchecked all the ramp tests I’ve done but they still show up in my PRs. 🤔 Is there a way to to check/uncheck all ramp tests at once or does it have to be done individually? ---
**Author:** ![jacksonianc](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/jacksonianc/32/63976_2.png) [@jacksonianc](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/jacksonianc)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2021, 3:07pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/excluding-ramp-test-from-personal-records/12066/12 "2021-02-11T15:07:39Z")
I’ve never found one. Sometimes one of the tests sticks around for a little bit but I think it’s eventually dropped off when I tell TR to exclude it from my PR’s ---
**Author:** ![mcneese.chad](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/mcneese.chad/32/15056_2.png) [@mcneese.chad](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/mcneese.chad)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2021, 3:13pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/excluding-ramp-test-from-personal-records/12066/13 "2021-02-11T15:13:46Z")
Yeah, there is no “catch all” button. They must be done individually. And I do think there is a delay in the actual impact of removing a ride before it actually drops out of the stats. Not sure on the actual time, but it is definitely not immediate. ---
**Author:** ![Crownan](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/crownan/32/103116_2.png) [@Crownan](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/Crownan)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2021, 3:39pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/excluding-ramp-test-from-personal-records/12066/14 "2021-02-11T15:39:27Z")
> [@mcneese.chad](#): > > And I do think there is a delay in the actual impact of removing a ride before it actually drops out of the stats. Not sure on the actual time, but it is definitely not immediate. Ah, I’ll give it another go, leave it, and see what happens. 👍🏼