# Estimating TSS for ride with 5mins of power data? **URL:** \ **Category:** TrainerRoad Software\ **Created:** [September 11, 2020, 9:16pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/estimating-tss-for-ride-with-5mins-of-power-data/42629 "2020-09-11T21:16:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![logella](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/a698b9/32.png) [@logella](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/logella)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2020, 9:16pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/estimating-tss-for-ride-with-5mins-of-power-data/42629/1 "2020-09-11T21:16:27Z")
This morning I did an outside ride. My power meter battery died after about 5mins but some minimal power data was recorded. Thus, there doesn’t appear to be anyway for me to estimate the TSS from the ride. Am I missing something? Thx. ---
**Author:** ![mcneese.chad](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/mcneese.chad/32/15056_2.png) [@mcneese.chad](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/mcneese.chad)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2020, 9:18pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/estimating-tss-for-ride-with-5mins-of-power-data/42629/2 "2020-09-11T21:18:42Z")
For rides with no power data, this is possible: > **[How to Estimate Training Stress Without Power Data](https://support.trainerroad.com/hc/en-us/articles/360003536512-How-to-Estimate-Training-Stress-Without-Power-Data)** > > Ride outdoors with no power meter? Our tool will estimate outside training stress from GPS files. Track training credit for every ride! > Training Stress Score (TSS)® is derived from power, so withou... But if you have one with partial data, not sure that is possible. You might be best to contact [support@trainerroad.com](mailto:support@trainerroad.com) to see what they can do for you. ---
**Author:** ![logella](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/a698b9/32.png) [@logella](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/logella)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2020, 9:22pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/estimating-tss-for-ride-with-5mins-of-power-data/42629/3 "2020-09-11T21:22:04Z")
Yep, that’s exactly what I was trying to do except because I’ve got 4:38 of power record before the battery died out of a 2:20 ride, that option is not available. ---
**Author:** ![mcneese.chad](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/mcneese.chad/32/15056_2.png) [@mcneese.chad](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/mcneese.chad)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2020, 9:28pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/estimating-tss-for-ride-with-5mins-of-power-data/42629/4 "2020-09-11T21:28:54Z")
Figured so. Hopefully TR support can help. Worst case, you could do a fully manual entry, set it complete, and base it with the RPE and time you did, to get a TSS estimate on your week. You can use the “Bike” setting in the “Other Activity” and finish with that. > **[Add Individual Workouts and Create a Custom Plan](https://support.trainerroad.com/hc/en-us/articles/360015964912-Add-Individual-Workouts-and-Create-a-Custom-Plan)** > > With Calendar, you can manually add Bike, Run, Swim, and "Other" workouts. Along with that, you can add single TrainerRoad workouts which in turn, allows you to create a custom plan. > Manually Addin... Set it complete after entering time and intensity estimate. ---
**Author:** ![rkoswald](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/rkoswald/32/28273_2.png) [@rkoswald](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/rkoswald)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2020, 12:29am UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/estimating-tss-for-ride-with-5mins-of-power-data/42629/5 "2020-09-12T00:29:17Z")
Did you record HR? Set your HR zones and dump the ride into TrainingPeaks. It will estimate TSS based on HR, then you can manually enter that number into TrainerRoad. Since I don’t have a power meter (just the trainer), this is what I do with all of my outdoor rides. ---
**Author:** ![timothyh](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/timothyh/32/1133_2.png) [@timothyh](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/timothyh)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2020, 12:43am UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/estimating-tss-for-ride-with-5mins-of-power-data/42629/6 "2020-09-12T00:43:40Z")
Intervals.icu will also do this. You just need to login with Strava. All your rides without power data gets an equivalent load. This is what I use when for my bikes without power meters. For the one with partial data, look in the Heart Rate tab for the activity… ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/original/3X/0/f/0f291e3106bce71f1470030c32e6e38f91551f39.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Un-QuittingBikes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/bb73d2/32.png) [@Un-QuittingBikes](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/Un-QuittingBikes)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2020, 1:15am UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/estimating-tss-for-ride-with-5mins-of-power-data/42629/7 "2020-09-12T01:15:20Z")
I would just set it to 900. ---
**Author:** ![splash](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ac8455/32.png) [@splash](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/splash)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2020, 1:18am UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/estimating-tss-for-ride-with-5mins-of-power-data/42629/8 "2020-09-12T01:18:34Z")
Pretty sure someone from TR recommended to add another activity to that day, and set the tss to the missing part. ---
**Author:** ![logella](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/a698b9/32.png) [@logella](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/logella)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2020, 3:25pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/estimating-tss-for-ride-with-5mins-of-power-data/42629/9 "2020-09-12T15:25:13Z")
I ended up creating a manual entry and using the RPE tool to get a TSS estimate. Couldn’t find any other way around it and the estimated number seems to be in the ballpark of what I would have expected for that ride. Close enough for me.