# Enve MOG vs Cervelo Aspero **URL:** \ **Category:** Equipment\ **Tags:** bike\ **Created:** [March 11, 2025, 8:25pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/enve-mog-vs-cervelo-aspero/101619 "2025-03-11T20:25:23Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![djhnz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a698b9/32.png) [@djhnz](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/djhnz)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2025, 8:25pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/enve-mog-vs-cervelo-aspero/101619/1 "2025-03-11T20:25:23Z")
I’m looking for a replacement for my Aspero, which overall i am very happy with. However, mine is from 2019 - and really want internal cables, and electronic shifting. I’m looking for something similar in the sense it’s very good on the road. I was looking at the enve MOG. does anyone has any experience, or know how the geometry would compare for road riding? I do probably 80% road 20% gravel on this bike. ---
**Author:** ![Power13](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/power13/32/92171_2.png) [@Power13](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/Power13)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2025, 8:31pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/enve-mog-vs-cervelo-aspero/101619/2 "2025-03-11T20:31:00Z")
Given your wants and preferences, I would suggest the ENVE Fray, which is more of an All-Road bike, can fit 40mm tires and would meet your road / gravel mix well. ---
**Author:** ![djhnz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a698b9/32.png) [@djhnz](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/djhnz)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2025, 8:33pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/enve-mog-vs-cervelo-aspero/101619/3 "2025-03-11T20:33:36Z")
Sorry - should have said, looking for something with 45mm minimum clearance ---
**Author:** ![Todd\_Palmer](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/todd_palmer/32/7532_2.png) [@Todd\_Palmer](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/Todd_Palmer)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2025, 8:41pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/enve-mog-vs-cervelo-aspero/101619/4 "2025-03-11T20:41:00Z")
I think the Cervelo maxes out at 45 unless they’ve introduced a new one I don’t yet know about? And the 45s would not work in muddy conditions, at least not on my 2024 aspero 5 ---
**Author:** ![Power13](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/power13/32/92171_2.png) [@Power13](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/Power13)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2025, 8:41pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/enve-mog-vs-cervelo-aspero/101619/5 "2025-03-11T20:41:34Z")
An Aspero to a Mog will likely feel substantially differemt…the Mog will be less responsive and react slower due to slacker angles and a substantially longer wheelbase. > **[Geometry Geeks](https://geometrygeeks.bike/compare/cervelo-aspero-2020-54,enve-mog-2023-54-1/)** > > The world's biggest open geometry database. Find bikes by name or numbers. Easily compare bike geometry side-by-side. From what you described you want to bike for, I wouldn’t think it would be a great choice. And for 80 / 20 Road riding, a 45mm tire seems like more than you need. The Fray will still feel like a road bike. Another option would be the Aspero 5, which will have internal routing and can handle 45mm tires. ---
**Author:** ![djhnz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a698b9/32.png) [@djhnz](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/djhnz)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2025, 8:49pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/enve-mog-vs-cervelo-aspero/101619/6 "2025-03-11T20:49:00Z")
Another Aspero is also an option, but really feel like they ruined the new one. Longer wheelbase, sloping top tube etc means it’s just not really a desirable race bike any more. Certainly watered down from what it was. ---
**Author:** ![tiptoppenguin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/tiptoppenguin/32/146850_2.png) [@tiptoppenguin](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/tiptoppenguin)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2025, 9:21pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/enve-mog-vs-cervelo-aspero/101619/7 "2025-03-11T21:21:56Z")
Crux would be my vote. Bonus points if you don’t need UDH you can get a really good deal for a racy bike with 45mm+ clearance. ---
**Author:** ![jamesdrichey](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/jamesdrichey/32/177510_2.png) [@jamesdrichey](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/jamesdrichey)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2025, 9:57pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/enve-mog-vs-cervelo-aspero/101619/8 "2025-03-11T21:57:23Z")
I’ll be a bad influence to your bank account. I think you should sell the Aspero, buy a ROAD bike with integrated cables and electronic shifting (you spend 80% of your time on the road) and then buy a dedicated gravel bike that has clearance as top priority. With your mix of riding and a 1 bike setup, you’ll always feel that you are slow on the road because of the geo and tire choice, and will feel great on the gravel. Issue is you only claim to ride gravel every 5th ride. ---
**Author:** ![Power13](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/power13/32/92171_2.png) [@Power13](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/Power13)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2025, 10:06pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/enve-mog-vs-cervelo-aspero/101619/9 "2025-03-11T22:06:05Z")
> [@tiptoppenguin](#): > > Crux would be my vote I was gonna say that, but he wants integrated cables. ---
**Author:** ![tiptoppenguin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/tiptoppenguin/32/146850_2.png) [@tiptoppenguin](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/tiptoppenguin)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2025, 10:31pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/enve-mog-vs-cervelo-aspero/101619/10 "2025-03-11T22:31:39Z")
ahhhhh is he sure about that?! lol ---
**Author:** ![FrankTuna](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/franktuna/32/135629_2.png) [@FrankTuna](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/FrankTuna)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2025, 11:43pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/enve-mog-vs-cervelo-aspero/101619/11 "2025-03-11T23:43:37Z")
Have you checked out the new SuperX? If the geometry works for you, it looks like it would be capable on and off road as long as you’re not worried about running MTB tires for gravel. > **[SuperX](https://www.cannondale.com/en-us/bikes/road/gravel/superx)** > > A gravel bike with the heart of a World Tour winning road bike. Cannondale SuperX is designed to take you to the front of the pack and stay there ---
**Author:** ![edfungus](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/edfungus/32/117043_2.png) [@edfungus](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/edfungus)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2025, 2:54am UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/enve-mog-vs-cervelo-aspero/101619/12 "2025-03-12T02:54:24Z")
I have considered these two bikes before cause they seem quite similar. In 54 size and 40mm tires, the mog is 17mm longer (all in the front if comparing pre 2025 aspero) but the trail is 0.7mm higher on the mog. Is the 17mm on the front that substantial even if the trail is the ~same? I’ve have the aspero and considering switching to a mog so quite curious especially if someone has ridden both. I’ve considered these two bikes cause they fall in the low trail (~60mm) gravel bike option bikeinsights: [Compare: 2024 Enve MOG Base 54 vs 2021 Cervelo Cycles Aspero 700C 54 - Bike Insights](https://bikeinsights.com/compare?geometries=673c1f75805c4b001b708434,5fa0ae34b3115d001716488e), ---
**Author:** ![kervelo](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/kervelo/32/143552_2.png) [@kervelo](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/kervelo)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2025, 6:07am UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/enve-mog-vs-cervelo-aspero/101619/13 "2025-03-12T06:07:28Z")
> [@djhnz](#): > > Another Aspero is also an option… I wonder if the geometry really has changed. At least the Bike Insights comparison shows identical geometry for Aspero 2020 and 2025. ---
**Author:** ![edfungus](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/edfungus/32/117043_2.png) [@edfungus](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/edfungus)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2025, 7:39am UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/enve-mog-vs-cervelo-aspero/101619/14 "2025-03-12T07:39:18Z")
afaik the only geo change is 420mm to 425 chainstay length ---
**Author:** ![djhnz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a698b9/32.png) [@djhnz](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/djhnz)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2025, 3:51pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/enve-mog-vs-cervelo-aspero/101619/15 "2025-03-12T15:51:41Z")
I’ve already got lots of road bikes. One reason i ride my aspero on road so much, is when i do road rides with my wife thts what i will ride. But i also do a lot of gravel races and events - plus we have a lot of rides where its mostly road, but joined up with gravel tracks. ---
**Author:** ![djhnz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a698b9/32.png) [@djhnz](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/djhnz)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2025, 3:52pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/enve-mog-vs-cervelo-aspero/101619/16 "2025-03-12T15:52:46Z")
I thought the mog was only like 2 degrees slacker, from what i can tell thats the main difference. I would be going from 56 aspero to 54 mog which seems to have a similar wheel base. ---
**Author:** ![mwglow15](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/mwglow15/32/28576_2.png) [@mwglow15](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/mwglow15)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2025, 5:15pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/enve-mog-vs-cervelo-aspero/101619/17 "2025-03-12T17:15:03Z")
Here you can compare the geo between them all: > **[Geometry Geeks](https://geometrygeeks.bike/compare/cervelo-aspero-2020-54,cervelo-aspero-2020-56,enve-mog-2023-54-1/)** > > The world's biggest open geometry database. Find bikes by name or numbers. Easily compare bike geometry side-by-side. 56 Aspero → 54 MOG would put you on the exact same wheelbase. The MOG would be 0.75deg slacker but have a longer fork rake to bring the trail back a bit closer. They’d be within 1-2mm of trail if you compare with Aspero’s longer fork rake setting and the same tire circumference (MOG a bit higher). ---
**Author:** ![djhnz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a698b9/32.png) [@djhnz](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/djhnz)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2025, 7:46pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/enve-mog-vs-cervelo-aspero/101619/18 "2025-03-12T19:46:07Z")
So that tells me almost identical geo in those sizes? ---
**Author:** ![hllclmbr72](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/hllclmbr72/32/139129_2.png) [@hllclmbr72](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/hllclmbr72)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2025, 8:26pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/enve-mog-vs-cervelo-aspero/101619/19 "2025-03-12T20:26:28Z")
> [@jamesdrichey](#): > > Issue is you only claim to ride gravel every 5th ride. Or it’s 20% of their ride. ---
**Author:** ![mwglow15](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/mwglow15/32/28576_2.png) [@mwglow15](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/mwglow15)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2025, 2:28pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/enve-mog-vs-cervelo-aspero/101619/20 "2025-03-13T14:28:43Z")
Looks like it. The fit geo is a bit different though (stack and reach) but the ride dynamics geo looks pretty similar. Now if you have the fork flip chip on the Aspero in the short rake setting then that changes a lot and makes the Trail on the Aspero much longer. So you’d have more ‘stable’ handling and less quick steering. But in the long rake setting they look pretty similar based on that chart. (comparing 56 Aspero to 54 MOG) [Next page](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/enve-mog-vs-cervelo-aspero/101619.md?page=2)