# Effect of out of saddle **URL:** \ **Category:** Training\ **Created:** [March 19, 2026, 2:07am UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/effect-of-out-of-saddle/112497 "2026-03-19T02:07:53Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![jtp03a](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/jtp03a/32/157921_2.png) [@jtp03a](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/jtp03a)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2026, 2:07am UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/effect-of-out-of-saddle/112497/1 "2026-03-19T02:07:53Z")
Today I was prescribed Frissell -2 which is 4x9-minute intervals at 95% FTP with 3-minute recoveries at 50% FTP. I was feeling pretty fatigued today due to to bad sleep and increased stress and legs not great but I still wanted to try my best at the workout. I was able to get through the workout with a few times of getting out of the saddle for 30 seconds during the 9 minute intervals. Does getting out of the saddle to pedal during a threshold interval still produce the proper training stimulus or does it kind of ruin the intent of the workout? In my post ride survey I rated the workout as Very Hard due to having to pedal out of the saddle to get through the intervals. ---
**Author:** ![dfquigley](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/dfquigley/32/174575_2.png) [@dfquigley](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/dfquigley)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2026, 3:38am UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/effect-of-out-of-saddle/112497/2 "2026-03-19T03:38:09Z")
Totally fine. Not only did you do the target power, but the vast majority was still even in the saddle. If you got out of the saddle in a climb, did you still do the climb? Moving around a bit, getting out of thesaddle briefly, and getting the work done is A ok ---
**Author:** ![jtp03a](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/jtp03a/32/157921_2.png) [@jtp03a](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/jtp03a)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2026, 1:10pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/effect-of-out-of-saddle/112497/3 "2026-03-19T13:10:02Z")
Thanks for the reply. I feel much more reassured now that the workout was appropriately prescribed and that it was a successful session. ---
**Author:** ![randomcoach](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/3d9bf3/32.png) [@randomcoach](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/randomcoach)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2026, 2:25pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/effect-of-out-of-saddle/112497/4 "2026-03-19T14:25:29Z")
For what it’s worth, my out-of-saddle FTP is about 20W higher than my in-saddle FTP, both indoors and outdoors. Power data on max efforts confirms this across all threshold-ish durations (30min through 70min). That said, I think I’m unusual in this regard. On steep climbs, I’m relatively stronger! ---
**Author:** ![BenB](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/benb/32/7721_2.png) [@BenB](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/BenB)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2026, 2:40pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/effect-of-out-of-saddle/112497/5 "2026-03-19T14:40:03Z")
Staying out of the saddle for 70mins is quite a feat! ---
**Author:** ![JonInSweden](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/joninsweden/32/166321_2.png) [@JonInSweden](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/JonInSweden)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2026, 2:41pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/effect-of-out-of-saddle/112497/6 "2026-03-19T14:41:59Z")
Mine too. Uphill FTP is about 10% higher for me, which is largely due to being able to stand. ---
**Author:** ![randomcoach](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/3d9bf3/32.png) [@randomcoach](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/randomcoach)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2026, 2:47pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/effect-of-out-of-saddle/112497/7 "2026-03-19T14:47:26Z")
I’ve never ridden a hill both steep enough and long enough that it makes sense to stand the entire time, but I’ve ridden several in the 45-55min range (I’m lucky to live near some large-ish mountains). Indoors, I’ve done 70min. Here’s an example of an outdoor, ~14km 8% average climb. The only times I sat down were for the occasional 2-5% portions. ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/original/3X/c/2/c21a7c809b6404db5fbddde8192fffb58de22276.png) ---
**Author:** ![Norry1](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/norry1/32/2984_2.png) [@Norry1](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/Norry1)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2026, 10:58am UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/effect-of-out-of-saddle/112497/8 "2026-03-21T10:58:19Z")
Mine is also about 10% higher when standing - but around 20 - 30 minutes is about the most I’ve done mainly standing.