The problem also turns up another way - you have to go and update your new diminishing change everywhere - Garmin, TP, Zwift etc. Too many places with no sync, easy to forget some.
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Lol, TR must of heard me. After months of 2-3w increase offers which I turned down, last night they offered me 5w which I accepted. Maybe its too small too but its a reasonable amount of my small FTP and what I’ve always said I accept as a changing step (5w increments)
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For me a win is a win, I take the small changes.
I just got a small bump of 4 watts on my last AI FTP.
I took it as if I had to repeat a class in school.
I completed all the previous workout but didn’t feel like I got stronger so I was cool with the 4 watts bump.
This did drop PL but not by much and the new workouts that TR gave me where at a higher level so in the end I don’t feel like it was a waste but more like fine tuning.
Also 230 just looks better than 226.
Why wouldn’t you want TraininerRoad to have the best chance of giving you its best shot?
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It depends if it’s just a few watts up or down. Seriously, if it’s just 1-3 watts decrease, I typically don’t accept. But if it’s 1-3 increase, I accept it. It’s probably not the best practice.
No I don’t turn down the changes from AI FTP detection.
I’m paying for the TR system and I’ll follow it.
If I am not happy with a PL because I’m feeling great or bad on a given day I will adjust the workout.
I’ve had more success with less manual intervention.
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After my first week of build 2, AIFTP proposed a 1.3% increase today that I accepted. Equaling an all-time high for me at 56 with a month of build yet to go, so pretty pleased. And based on a couple recent efforts, I think it’s possibly still ~5w low, but I generally prefer to be undershooting things a bit rather than overshooting.
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I accept them all. It’s just number that goes into a calculation. I don’t see a reason to deny any level of granularity in that.
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I also turn them down because it slightly bumps down the progression levels and then you repeat the same workout. I’d rather increase time in zone with a higher progression level than slightly bump the output.
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I declined a 1% decline but accepted a 1.5% increase recently. Logic was that I wasn’t interested in making my workouts easier but was interested in taking on more challenging workouts even if small in the increments. I think if the reduction would’ve been more than 2-3% I would’ve accepted it, but I’m new to TR, didn’t feel I had enough time to confidently feel like the reduction was totally valid, and again, wanted to make sure the workouts stayed as challenging as they could be.
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After reading replies, I decided that what the heck, I’d accept whatever the next AI FTP suggestion was, no matter how I felt about it. Today it bumped me from 197 to 201. For whatever reason, I still feel weird about accepting FTP increases (while still being excited that I’ve been steadily ramping up my progression levels) but whatever. I guess a 2% increase is probably statistically significant? Regardless of what the numbers are, I can tell that I’ve gained fitness over the last couple months, as I’ve had to recalibrate how difficult I think a workout will be. They’re becoming easier than I’m expecting to be (except over-unders which I continue to hate with the passion of a thousand fiery suns), and that is definitely progress that I can feel and believe in.
A different narrative I’m trying to own is that at 45 merely maintaining fitness is like improving, so actually improving is a meteoric trajectory 
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Same here. Took my 4 watt win last night.
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