# Do I have to use Plan Builder to get the adaptive training adjustments? **URL:** \ **Category:** Training\ **Tags:** polarized\ **Created:** [December 8, 2021, 5:22pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/do-i-have-to-use-plan-builder-to-get-the-adaptive-training-adjustments/66212 "2021-12-08T17:22:16Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 4\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![EdselRoams](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/edselroams/32/10635_2.png) [@EdselRoams](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/EdselRoams)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2021, 5:22pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/do-i-have-to-use-plan-builder-to-get-the-adaptive-training-adjustments/66212/1 "2021-12-08T17:22:16Z")
Hey Folks, I do apologize if this is common knowledge and I just missed it, but if I choose one of the Training Plans (rather than using Plan Builder), does TR still set my workouts and then adjust them throughout the plan using adaptive training? I would like to try a Polarized plan, but I do like at adaptive training features, so I don’t want to miss out on that. I’ve been doing a modified version of a plan tossed out by Plan Builder but I don’t really want to do the sweet spot-esque blocks it threw at me for the first six weeks. thanks in advance, John ---
**Author:** ![mcneese.chad](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/mcneese.chad/32/15056_2.png) [@mcneese.chad](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/mcneese.chad)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2021, 5:25pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/do-i-have-to-use-plan-builder-to-get-the-adaptive-training-adjustments/66212/2 "2021-12-08T17:25:26Z")
That used to be a requirement (PB + AT to get adaptations), but they changed that to all AT to work with ad hoc plans added manually, like the old days. Related to POL & AT: > [@Polarized Adaptations from Base to Build](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/polarized-adaptations-from-base-to-build/66203/19): > > As mentioned above, in this specific range of questions, it’s important to remember 2 key things related to the POL side of this post: TR POL plans are clearly listed in the “experimental” status. Meaning they are not at the same level of review as their other plans. TR POL plans are NOT guaranteed to maintain POL attributes with Adaptations, even though we can apply POL to the AT experience. There is not a locked connection to maintain the POL objectives at this time. And as covered … ---
**Author:** ![EdselRoams](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/edselroams/32/10635_2.png) [@EdselRoams](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/EdselRoams)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2021, 5:53pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/do-i-have-to-use-plan-builder-to-get-the-adaptive-training-adjustments/66212/3 "2021-12-08T17:53:52Z")
Thanks, Chad. That helps. One follow-up question: “NOT guaranteed to maintain POL attributes with Adaptations.” Right, there is no guarantee that the adaptations will lock in the % in zone ratios that makes the POL plan by-the-books POL. But, it’s only going to ever suggest adaptations that shift the _level_ of the workout, so even with all the adapting throughout, it’ still going to be week-by-week of (e.g.) VO2/endurance/threshold/endurance (i.e., the _zones_ wont change due to AT). So, it seems like a pretty good fix would be just to make sure any suggested adjusted VO2 or threshold workout (not really an issue for endurance) matches the “type” of workout in the original plan (e.g., adjust a three-minute interval VO2 to another 3-minuter of the suggested new level; or, **don’t** sub a VO2 with 4-minute intervals for one w/2-minute intervals). Would that get you 90+% of the way there? Or is there something else about possibly messing up the polarized nature of the plan that I am missing? Thanks John ---
**Author:** ![mcneese.chad](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/mcneese.chad/32/15056_2.png) [@mcneese.chad](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/mcneese.chad)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2021, 5:58pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/do-i-have-to-use-plan-builder-to-get-the-adaptive-training-adjustments/66212/4 "2021-12-08T17:58:53Z")
> [@EdselRoams](#): > > Would that get you 90+% of the way there? Or is there something else about possibly messing up the polarized nature of the plan that I am missing? - As an outsider, I simply can’t comment about how TR would, should, should make changes to their app and such. I am not a programmer and don’t have any knowledge about the how’s/why’s within TR. - That is best addressed directly to them via email or enhancement request, so they can review it.