# Cyclingnews paywall **URL:** \ **Category:** Uncategorized\ **Created:** [February 20, 2022, 1:44am UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/cyclingnews-paywall/69740 "2022-02-20T01:44:18Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![mgbroph](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/mgbroph/32/7746_2.png) [@mgbroph](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/mgbroph)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2022, 1:44am UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/cyclingnews-paywall/69740/1 "2022-02-20T01:44:18Z")
I noticed Cyclingnews added a paywall for “full” access to their articles. Any good suggestions for alternatives? Seems that Velonews has something similar, maybe not quite as restrictive though. ---
**Author:** ![Cory](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/cory/32/90831_2.png) [@Cory](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/Cory)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2022, 2:15am UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/cyclingnews-paywall/69740/2 "2022-02-20T02:15:09Z")
You get better “cycling news” in three places. 1. Here - For everything 2. Reddit /Velo - Well it’s Reddit but despite that there’s some good discussion. 3. Reddit /Peloton - All things Pro Cycling. Half the time they post articles from the magazines but the discussion on the subreddit are better anyway. ---
**Author:** ![AJS914](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/919ad9/32.png) [@AJS914](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/AJS914)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2022, 3:27am UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/cyclingnews-paywall/69740/3 "2022-02-20T03:27:30Z")
I like Cyclingtips. They say they have a paywall but I’ve never encountered it. My ad blocker seems to block their big banner ad at the top. ---
**Author:** ![IL.Grillo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e0b2c6/32.png) [@IL.Grillo](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/IL.Grillo)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2022, 5:25am UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/cyclingnews-paywall/69740/4 "2022-02-20T05:25:27Z")
As far as I’m aware its only a limit on how many articles you can read for free. Ways to get around this: Open the articles via a link on facebook. You can go through multiple article’s once youre on cyclingnews and not have to go back and find thr next article. Open a browser tab in private mode. Clearing cookie’s probably would work too or opening in another browser. ---
**Author:** ![mgbroph](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/mgbroph/32/7746_2.png) [@mgbroph](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/mgbroph)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2022, 11:26am UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/cyclingnews-paywall/69740/5 "2022-02-20T11:26:35Z")
Yea it still allows you to open the articles but it takes what used to be a full page and shortens it to about 2 paragraphs. Thanks for the work arounds ---
**Author:** ![DarthShivious](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/darthshivious/32/3182_2.png) [@DarthShivious](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/DarthShivious)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2022, 1:29pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/cyclingnews-paywall/69740/6 "2022-02-20T13:29:59Z")
Paywalls on that stuff drove me away. I used to check the various cycling pages a few times a week to see if there was anything good. There has never been enough solid content or quality writing to pay actual Darth Bucks ™ for. So I don’t look any longer. For context, I used to subscribe to VeloNews back when it was black and white and came in the snail mail. Your friend, -Darth Grumpyious ---
**Author:** ![Power13](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/power13/32/92171_2.png) [@Power13](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/Power13)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2022, 1:50pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/cyclingnews-paywall/69740/7 "2022-02-20T13:50:01Z")
The content is not free to produce…it costs time and money and companies deserve to be paid for it. Back in the day, most of us subscribed to different magazines to get out content and no one complained. The worst thing media companies did was start putting content on the internet for free. It has trained a whole generation of people (not just cyclists, but everyone) that they should get their news for free. If everyone keeps using workarounds, there will be less and less content to consume. Pick a service and subscribe. ---
**Author:** ![DingleTower](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9d8465/32.png) [@DingleTower](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/DingleTower)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2022, 2:16pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/cyclingnews-paywall/69740/9 "2022-02-20T14:16:57Z")
I pay for Cyclingtips. I’ve been reading for free for a decade. Worth the price to me. Cyclingnews wasn’t even worth it when it was free in my opinion. ---
**Author:** ![Pbase](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/pbase/32/969_2.png) [@Pbase](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/Pbase)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2022, 2:22pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/cyclingnews-paywall/69740/10 "2022-02-20T14:22:14Z")
Me too. James’ content alone is worth the price for me. I just hope Outside doesn’t ruin a good thing. ---
**Author:** ![AJS914](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/919ad9/32.png) [@AJS914](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/AJS914)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2022, 5:33pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/cyclingnews-paywall/69740/11 "2022-02-20T17:33:45Z")
> [@Power13](#): > > The content is not free to produce…it costs time and money and companies deserve to be paid for it. > > Back in the day, most of us subscribed to different magazines to get out content and no one complained. Those magazines were also ad supported and those companies sold our addresses so that other companies could solicit us. They were also really cheap, probably cheaper than the cost of printing and mailing. If the ad model is broken, I have no problem paying for content when that day comes. These companies are also up against twitter and free, ad supported, youtube content. My biggest problem with all these new paywall initiatives are the public radio like appeals. Sob story pitches like “we deserve to get paid” or “support our journalism”, blah, blah, blah are pure BS. Cyclingtips or Velonews isn’t a bunch of cycling geeks sitting around trying to save a sinking ship of a business. They are owned by Outdoor Inc, a media giant backed by venture capital money. They seem to have a strategy of buying up everything and then throwing up paywalls. Maybe it will work for them? > **[Mountain Bike News, Photos, Videos & Events | Pinkbike](https://www.pinkbike.com)** > > Check out PinkBike.com for the latest in cycling and mountain biking news, freeride videos, photos, events and more. Submit your own biking pictures and videos online. Buy the latest biking DVDs and videos. Check race results. In the future I may decide to pay for Cyclingtips but I’ll know full well that I’m sending my money to a corporation not making a contribution so that James Huang can keep his job. ---
**Author:** ![Power13](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/power13/32/92171_2.png) [@Power13](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/Power13)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2022, 7:04pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/cyclingnews-paywall/69740/12 "2022-02-20T19:04:03Z")
> [@AJS914](#): > > If the ad model is broken, I have no problem paying for content when that day comes Well, that day has arrived….the ad model is broken. The revenue generated by internet ads is nowhere near what print ads generated. Go flip through any magazine and see how many different companies advertised vs. how many you see on a website. Journalists deserve to be pad for their work, period. I’m sure if people showed up at your job and demanded you provide your services for free, you’d tell them to pound sand. ---
**Author:** ![AJS914](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/919ad9/32.png) [@AJS914](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/AJS914)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2022, 8:48pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/cyclingnews-paywall/69740/13 "2022-02-20T20:48:40Z")
It’s not clear that that day has arrived. > [@Power13](#): > > I’m sure if people showed up at your job and demanded you provide your services for free, you’d tell them to pound sand. You are just buying into their song and dance. The journalists are being paid by their employer. That song and dance is coming from big money corporations and venture capitalists that think they can monetize this space for a big pay day. Maybe they can. Maybe they can’t. It’s not yet clear. [https://www.axios.com/outside-funding-from-sequoia-1acc7732-7e6e-4d19-9f87-ce898376ca84.html](https://www.axios.com/outside-funding-from-sequoia-1acc7732-7e6e-4d19-9f87-ce898376ca84.html) I think it’s going to be a tough fight for paywall money. Pocket buys every property and sets up paywalls. They are playing monopoly. Buyers might go elsewhere instead of paying up. New sites might pop up to furnish racing news and bicycle content under an ad model. Maybe most consumers will just keep grazing at the free content and start looking at podcasts and youtube to supplement their 5 free articles? ---
**Author:** ![Power13](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/power13/32/92171_2.png) [@Power13](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/Power13)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2022, 9:55pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/cyclingnews-paywall/69740/14 "2022-02-20T21:55:35Z")
No, my daughter is a journalist. I have a pretty good idea of what I am talking about. You want content, pay for it. ---
**Author:** ![mgbroph](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/mgbroph/32/7746_2.png) [@mgbroph](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/mgbroph)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2022, 10:22pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/cyclingnews-paywall/69740/15 "2022-02-20T22:22:40Z")
Yea I wish I hadn’t asked. Just looking for what other people are using. Thanks ---
**Author:** ![a59a2e9a2645dbb](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/a59a2e9a2645dbb/32/100578_2.png) [@a59a2e9a2645dbb](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/a59a2e9a2645dbb)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2022, 5:00am UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/cyclingnews-paywall/69740/16 "2022-02-21T05:00:40Z")
Problem is, many of these subscriptions still show ads (or attempt to) and harvest (resell) user data, clicks, engagement with promotional content etc. ---
**Author:** ![Power13](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/power13/32/92171_2.png) [@Power13](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/Power13)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2022, 12:45pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/cyclingnews-paywall/69740/17 "2022-02-21T12:45:14Z")
And so do video subscriptions and a whole host of other services you currently use and pay for today. I’m a helluva lot more concerned about the data harvesting from Google, Apple , FB and others than I am about CyclingTips. ---
**Author:** ![Brennus](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/brennus/32/1318_2.png) [@Brennus](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/Brennus)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2022, 2:26pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/cyclingnews-paywall/69740/18 "2022-02-21T14:26:17Z")
> [@mgbroph](#): > > I noticed Cyclingnews added a paywall for “full” access to their articles. Any good suggestions for alternatives? Consider a VPN. Not free but the benefits of a VPN service distribute to many, many websites & activities. If you have a good VPN you won’t be limited to a certain number of articles on Cyclingnews…plus you’ll get all the other benefits of a good VPN. Your mileage may vary, of course! I’m only saying it’s something you can consider. ---
**Author:** ![Gnome](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/gnome/32/139448_2.png) [@Gnome](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/Gnome)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2022, 2:42pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/cyclingnews-paywall/69740/19 "2022-02-21T14:42:46Z")
As soon as websites do this, I block them from my feed and never see them again ---
**Author:** ![Sidi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecc23a/32.png) [@Sidi](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/Sidi)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2022, 9:15pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/cyclingnews-paywall/69740/20 "2022-02-21T21:15:23Z")
I sometimes use this website. Not sure if it will help anyone else? > **[12ft – Hop any paywall](https://12ft.io/)** > > Show me a 10ft paywall, I’ll show you a 12ft ladder. > **[Paywall-breaking tool 12ft asks users to subscribe to cover costs](https://news.sky.com/story/paywall-breaking-tool-12ft-asks-users-to-subscribe-to-cover-costs-12536304)** > > The tool, which allows users to avoid paying subscriptions, was developed to protest the way websites are designed to suit Google Search by exploiting that design itself. ---
**Author:** ![a59a2e9a2645dbb](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/a59a2e9a2645dbb/32/100578_2.png) [@a59a2e9a2645dbb](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/a59a2e9a2645dbb)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2022, 2:13am UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/cyclingnews-paywall/69740/21 "2022-02-22T02:13:54Z")
Not sure of your point but I’ll play along. Of course you should be wary of those tech giants that have advertising as their primary revenue source (sans Apple which has hardware as the primary). My point was, even paying the subscription fee for access the user is still subjected to tracking pixels, cookies, an advertising-lite model, etc. At that point the content provider is double dipping, receiving payment from the user while still “using” the users clicks and reading behaviour for ad revenue. Of course. A savvy internet user would never allow any of those tracking techniques to track them, but the average user (read: someone who sees ads while watching YouTube videos) is not so lucky. It’s kind of like location services with Facebook. If you disable it in FB, they’re still tracking your location, they’re just not sharing it with you any more. But I digress, I can’t figure out why in 2022 any self respecting adult would still have a Facebook account. [Next page](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/cyclingnews-paywall/69740.md?page=2)