Sure. I dont think this feature is meant to be used in that way though, to apply a broad change to an entire workout isn’t really the purpose here, and progressions and AT will really help address things like that in the future proactively!
A quick additional request - an instant ‘return to zero’!
I’m one of those people who often bumped up the recovery sections between intervals, or extend the cool down…usually because I’m participating in a Zwift event at the same time as using TR, and really helpful to increase the intensity to stay with a group, but need to return to 100% before the next interval kicks in.
The latest app seems really laggy when adjusting intensity - weirdly, getting worse as the duration of the ride increases and with the scale of the intensity increase. To be clear, I’m not fussed about a handful of % increases, I’m talking about taking it from 100 to 300% and then back down again… and incredibly frustrating to overshoot things and end up below 100% for the next set of reps
I’ve always thought that instead of continuous press, adding a +10% and -10% to go along with the +1% and -1% buttons would have been the best way to accommodate larger adjustments. The new continuous press implementation is not only laggy, but now the simple +1% and -1% press is more difficult than it used to be (especially when you’re pegged).
Long press issue:
Hold down +/- and it lags or gets stuck.
The end of my workout I wanted to whack the % up for a quick sprint or whatever so press and held +, it shot up and I let go and it kept going…and going. So then I did the same on the -, it went down, and down…and down, so then I did the + again, and it went up and up, then I did the “panic finger tapping” to get it back down to “normal” again. Was fun, but not the desired outcome
Getting ‘stuck’ may be a device specific issue, I haven’t heart of any other reports of this received! Check in with email@example.com so they can run through any applicable troubleshooting and try to help out!
Why not just switch to resistance mode and do a sprint or whatever? Erg isn’t really intended for the use case you tried so non idea outcome isn’t really surprising
I see what you’re saying but that’s not the point. The point is, if I press and hold the intensity adjustment, as per the implemented feature request, it doesn’t stop when I release but lags and keeps adjusting for longer than required. You’re suggestion may be a work around but I would think that both lead to exactly the same outcome if it worked on my device as intended. Example: if I press and hold while it goes from 100 to 200%, I’d then expect it to stop increasing as soon as I release it, rather than continuing to increase for ‘x’ amount of time up to 300.
Would it be possible on the app (I use android) where you click at bottom of screen to adjust intensity to make it possible to enter a numerical value instead of only being able to hit + or - button? I ask because I often add sweet spot at end of a ride, would prefer to stay on erg but I have to his the +/- button like 100 times to get it from very low cooldown watts to sweet spot level. For example I had it at like 225% the last time I did this.
It’s been mentioned at least twice I can find in existing requests:
So this may be a redundant entry for one that is already in the TR FR library. I will leave this to @IvyAudrain to merge or leave separate as appropriate.
Im passing this along to the team for consideration for sure, there are no bad feature requests!
I should reiterate though that if this is a regular occurrence of changing efforts to 200+ percent, its probably better practice to just select a different workout to be honest, either via TrainNow, Alternates, or just selecting one from the Workout Library that looks more like the energy system you’re after by increasing to 200+ percent.
The reason I do this is 100% during cooldowns is like 40% of ftp and if I’m feeling good will add maybe another 12min sweetspot to end of a workout but I never know if I’ll add until I’m toward the end. So increasing to 200+% is only setting the watts at like 88% of ftp. But I often might add 30mins of endurance to end of a workout - and that usually is around 150-175% too. Not sure if that makes sense.
Hi @IvyAudrain Ivy,
I have often thought that +10% and -10% buttons in addition to the current +/-1% is the best way to accomplish quick changes. It would take about two seconds to double one intensity with ten quick taps, and would avoid the awkward lag of the continuous press. Try running that idea by the team?
For sure! Will do.
I honestly don’t do the intensity adjustments very often. But…most of my indoor workouts are done at work on a dumb trainer
But at home I use the it a lot for cooldowns. I will add cooldown time, and lower the intensity. I accidentally tried to tap and hold the - button, only for it to continue scrolling down to 0% after I let go. So then I did the opposite and ended up at over 200% before I gave up.
I’m not really going to complain since it is something I rarely do.
I do often just do multiple workouts back to back myself. They are all recorded together on my Garmin.
Has anyone noticed that intensity adjustment feature is snappy, quick, and useful in the beginning of a workout, but becomes super laggy and slow near the end (over 1 hour)? Could this be a device issue on my part (I use an ipad), or is it something with the feature itself?
I’ve not used the Intensity adjustment feature for eons, but have begun doing so again the past couple of weeks while tacking a bit of Endurance onto the end of workouts. And what I’ve found is that the long-press adjustment is massively laggy causing it to then hugely overshoot, just as you wrote a year ago, rendering the feature largely unusable…
Could it be my device? Perhaps, but I’m running a Pixel 3a, so not the slowest device by far, and with no apps other than TR running; tried phone reboots and TR app re-installation, to no avail.
Prior to me contacting TR support, out of interest are others here using this long-press feature OK, without any lags/overshoots, at the end of their workouts? Or are the posts towards the end of this thread all commenting about laggy/overshooting behaviour the norm?
Last year when I used it I found the lag went away when I got a new iPad. So it may well require peppy HW to be usable in practice.
For today’s workout I used the “continuous press” Intensity adjustment at the beginning of my workout and at the end…
It behaves just as you wrote back in January: function behaves correctly near the beginning of the workout, while it behaves horribly laggy/slow/overshooting by the end of the workour (eg. ~1 hr time).
I cannot think of anything other than a bug to explain that discrepancy in behaviour: if it works OK at the beginning it should also work OK 1 hr into a workout; device processing power alone doesn’t satisfactorily explain that change in behaviour. While device power might be an additional factor (in that very powerful devices may help mask the underlying problem) it looks pretty clear cut as a coding error.
Considering this was flagged up here well over a year ago, I’m surprised it’s not been fixed. Maybe nobody told TR support? That’s what I’ll be doing.
Thanks for doing this.
The forum can be useful for a range of items, but nothing beats contacting support directly when it comes to apparent bugs and such, IMO.
I don’t believe your device is the issue. It looks like you are on Android version 12.32 with your Pixel 3A which is above the required Android 7. You can find our minimum system requirements here.
These steps were a good idea, and the first I would suggest to an athlete running into an issue like this.
We have a bug report open for this, so I will add your information to this report so that the team have more info to work with. Cheers for the info- it helps our developers!