# BWR California 2025 **URL:** \ **Category:** Racing\ **Created:** [December 18, 2024, 5:42pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/bwr-california-2025/98937 "2024-12-18T17:42:33Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![ndmufc](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/ndmufc/32/100358_2.png) [@ndmufc](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/ndmufc)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2025, 3:18pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/bwr-california-2025/98937/22 "2025-03-23T15:18:04Z")
Ooof! That was a tough ride. The numbers don’t really tell the tale of how hard that was. The “new” sections through Lusardi are a lot more technical than on BWRs in the last 5 or so years and will definitely cause some people trouble if they turn up on a road bike with 30s. The switchbacks up the river valley always cause me issues. I’d imagine that will be the majority of the course once the Ramona/Black Canyon section is tacked on to the end of Hodges ---
**Author:** ![daness40](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/daness40/32/85073_2.png) [@daness40](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/daness40)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2025, 3:51pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/bwr-california-2025/98937/23 "2025-03-23T15:51:16Z")
Thanks for the report! I was actually planning on running a wider slick, but maybe I’ll go with something with some side knobs… ---
**Author:** ![daness40](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/daness40/32/85073_2.png) [@daness40](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/daness40)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2025, 6:14pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/bwr-california-2025/98937/24 "2025-03-31T18:14:53Z")
Just in case you haven’t seen this yet: [![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/original/3X/3/5/3557921c30171432dd9cae6d806fd2dde468410a.jpeg "BWR CA: New Course New Segments Preview") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=egEO4KrDmSE) ---
**Author:** ![sasa](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/sasa/32/22910_2.png) [@sasa](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/sasa)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2025, 11:58pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/bwr-california-2025/98937/25 "2025-03-31T23:58:34Z")
Good to know! How does it compare to the truck trail from 2022 ago, because that was savage. Though it was mostly the descent. I also understand they’ve taken out Raptor Ridge and Bandy reverse, but recon route seems to have both reversed. I’m curious what they’ll do to Ramona - I suspect it’ll serve as a turnaround point. It got some Hutchinson Caracal 40mm but it makes me wonder if I need more knobs … ---
**Author:** ![sasa](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/sasa/32/22910_2.png) [@sasa](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/sasa)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2025, 12:29am UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/bwr-california-2025/98937/26 "2025-04-01T00:29:48Z")
Thanks! Looks like the new start/finish has some burly sections. ---
**Author:** ![zakihoover](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/zakihoover/32/123394_2.png) [@zakihoover](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/zakihoover)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2025, 3:12am UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/bwr-california-2025/98937/27 "2025-04-13T03:12:53Z")
Could you share the route link please? ---
**Author:** ![Stevie\_Dee](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/stevie_dee/32/162626_2.png) [@Stevie\_Dee](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/Stevie_Dee)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2025, 3:42am UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/bwr-california-2025/98937/28 "2025-04-13T03:42:30Z")
[BWR CA RECCE RIDES—NO EXCUSES. NO MERCY. JUST BEER. - belgianwaffleride](https://www.belgianwaffleride.bike/blogs/news/bwr-ca-recce-rides-no-excuses-no-mercy-just-beer) There have been two recon ride weekends, the up coming event will resemble these routes and cover a lot of the same ground. Rumor has it, there are two loops around the Lusardi area. [Recce Breake | 77.3 mi Cycling Route on Strava](https://www.strava.com/routes/3335321703340910436) [Recce Breake Kort | 63.3 mi Cycling Route on Strava](https://www.strava.com/routes/3335324602734359754) ---
**Author:** ![zakihoover](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/zakihoover/32/123394_2.png) [@zakihoover](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/zakihoover)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2025, 3:49am UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/bwr-california-2025/98937/29 "2025-04-13T03:49:15Z")
Thank you. Yeah, I can’t get down there on Saturdays. Kiddo has karate. Wife has yoga. I ride later. Thanks so much for this! ---
**Author:** ![sasa](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/sasa/32/22910_2.png) [@sasa](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/sasa)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2025, 1:08am UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/bwr-california-2025/98937/30 "2025-04-15T01:08:33Z")
Official routes were just emailed, waffle: [Ride with GPS | Bike Route Planner and Cycling Navigation App](https://ridewithgps.com/routes/50204068) Distance-wise, a bit shorter and less elevation than previous years. Let’s see about difficulty, the black mountain area does not look trivial! But no raptor ridge climb, that 6-7m was tough. ---
**Author:** ![daness40](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/daness40/32/85073_2.png) [@daness40](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/daness40)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2025, 1:45am UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/bwr-california-2025/98937/31 "2025-04-15T01:45:07Z")
Yeah, Raptor Ridge is a rough go. Looks like a good time ! ---
**Author:** ![ndmufc](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/ndmufc/32/100358_2.png) [@ndmufc](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/ndmufc)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2025, 2:21am UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/bwr-california-2025/98937/32 "2025-04-15T02:21:22Z")
That’s a gnarly little hill back up to Camino del Sur after the switchbacks on the Santa Fe trail. I never enjoy doing that ---
**Author:** ![sasa](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/sasa/32/22910_2.png) [@sasa](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/sasa)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2025, 12:05pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/bwr-california-2025/98937/33 "2025-04-15T12:05:35Z")
Haven’t done that area at all - the one just before you pop out onto the road? ---
**Author:** ![ndmufc](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/ndmufc/32/100358_2.png) [@ndmufc](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/ndmufc)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2025, 3:46pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/bwr-california-2025/98937/34 "2025-04-15T15:46:34Z")
Yeah, it’s no Double Peak but you’ll definitely feel it after 100+ miles ---
**Author:** ![Stevie\_Dee](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/stevie_dee/32/162626_2.png) [@Stevie\_Dee](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/Stevie_Dee)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2025, 7:48pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/bwr-california-2025/98937/35 "2025-04-15T19:48:01Z")
Those switchbacks will be gnarly on the way back and the final kicker is no joke. Looking forward to pain. ---
**Author:** ![Stevie\_Dee](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/stevie_dee/32/162626_2.png) [@Stevie\_Dee](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/Stevie_Dee)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2025, 10:45pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/bwr-california-2025/98937/36 "2025-04-16T22:45:38Z")
![IMG_6015](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/original/3X/d/f/df82c5bf2273c0049deffb69bfa292eed71a891f.jpeg) ![IMG_6009](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/original/3X/5/3/53cedd609015523af208e70b94f3a31beeba4c3a.jpeg) ![IMG_6011](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/original/3X/4/e/4e438baf92a3c276f84424e09251b18524717dac.jpeg) ![IMG_6013](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/original/3X/9/6/967881b5fc207a0b8af70ed1e1b8a7f091153f16.jpeg) ![IMG_6014](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/original/3X/9/2/9217a49c261d2c6f2986e0eb0fed2caf9aefd6e2.jpeg) A brief visit to Saint Lusardi. ---
**Author:** ![daness40](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/daness40/32/85073_2.png) [@daness40](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/daness40)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2025, 11:11pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/bwr-california-2025/98937/37 "2025-04-16T23:11:02Z")
Shreddin’! Keep the pics coming. Dane Redmond ---
**Author:** ![Stevie\_Dee](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/stevie_dee/32/162626_2.png) [@Stevie\_Dee](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/Stevie_Dee)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2025, 11:44pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/bwr-california-2025/98937/38 "2025-04-18T23:44:47Z")
A few more surveillance pics from todays ride. A lot of grooming has been done on the trails through Lusardi on the way back. It’s so much smoother and safer on tue single track that was usually studded with rocks and a little rutted. ![IMG_6040](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/original/3X/e/7/e7431eff53393d5206f7f3e0655205d8fe7c3d91.jpeg) ![IMG_6042](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/original/3X/0/e/0ee8860517e41e527c10c9e15930a2797f893f25.jpeg) ![IMG_6044](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/original/3X/1/b/1bd304656e8b6d50245f46f67b53dfa59ed31332.jpeg) ![IMG_6047](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/original/3X/5/e/5ef09d2673862478de7955818109788ae7121bd9.jpeg) ![IMG_6046](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/original/3X/6/d/6de17214be40467733157e4dc8d89a05cb482ed7.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![daness40](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/daness40/32/85073_2.png) [@daness40](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/daness40)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2025, 12:09am UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/bwr-california-2025/98937/39 "2025-04-19T00:09:07Z")
That’s not bad news! Is that water crossing…crossable? ---
**Author:** ![Stevie\_Dee](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/stevie_dee/32/162626_2.png) [@Stevie\_Dee](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/Stevie_Dee)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2025, 12:41am UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/bwr-california-2025/98937/40 "2025-04-19T00:41:29Z")
@daness40 I’d say it’s most likely rideable with some momentum. I didn’t walk right up to it but it’s probably a foot to 18" deep. Last time I walked across the rocks and ended up slipping in but not falling. This time I turned around and took another hike a bike section to bypass the water crossing. Come event day, if I’m feeling motivated, I may go for it and plow though. I don’t know if anybody has tried crossing it. ---
**Author:** ![daness40](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/daness40/32/85073_2.png) [@daness40](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/daness40)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2025, 12:59am UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/bwr-california-2025/98937/41 "2025-04-19T00:59:35Z")
Oh, the photos from the event will be fantastic. [Previous page](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/bwr-california-2025/98937.md?page=1) [Next page](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/bwr-california-2025/98937.md?page=3)