# šŸŽ‰ Build & Sync Custom Workouts from Training Peaks & Final Surge šŸŽ‰ **URL:** \ **Category:** Announcements\ **Created:** [June 11, 2020, 5:38pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/build-sync-custom-workouts-from-training-peaks-final-surge/37650 "2020-06-11T17:38:49Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Gnome](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/gnome/32/139448_2.png) [@Gnome](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/Gnome)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2020, 10:39pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/build-sync-custom-workouts-from-training-peaks-final-surge/37650/26 "2020-06-12T22:39:34Z")
@bnied no worries. Iā€™m glad you were able to find the error so fast! ---
**Author:** ![ericallenboyd](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/ericallenboyd/32/37233_2.png) [@ericallenboyd](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/ericallenboyd)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2020, 2:16am UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/build-sync-custom-workouts-from-training-peaks-final-surge/37650/27 "2020-06-13T02:16:44Z")
Serious question. How does one get that number so high? More hours and tss week after week? I have been doing 10 hrs cycling and for 3 weeks and then 6 on recovery via Trad base for last 2+ months. Doing the 14 day trial of TP and my number as of now is 79, 67, -19 (going down with recovery week). ---
**Author:** ![Gnome](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/gnome/32/139448_2.png) [@Gnome](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/Gnome)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2020, 2:37am UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/build-sync-custom-workouts-from-training-peaks-final-surge/37650/28 "2020-06-13T02:37:07Z")
Yea itā€™s just a lot of training volume. Running helps pad the number out a bit. For example my aerobic runs clock in at 80tss an hour where the Pettit ride for example comes in at 40 or 50tss. I ride a century every weekend usually always around 300tss. Iā€™ve been at 900-1000 tss for the last 6 weeks or so. Now this would have been impossible for me to handle last year. It just takes time to get there ---
**Author:** ![ericallenboyd](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/ericallenboyd/32/37233_2.png) [@ericallenboyd](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/ericallenboyd)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2020, 3:27am UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/build-sync-custom-workouts-from-training-peaks-final-surge/37650/29 "2020-06-13T03:27:05Z")
Makes sense and the tss from running definitely helps. I think a 34 min run for me the other week was 65 tss. Trying out TP trial to see if I care to sub. The TR calendar or even TP free version has been working fine for my needs but wanted to see if I was missing anything. ---
**Author:** ![IceBear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b3f665/32.png) [@IceBear](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/IceBear)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2020, 10:51am UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/build-sync-custom-workouts-from-training-peaks-final-surge/37650/30 "2020-06-13T10:51:27Z")
Awesome feature, maybe this is a stupid question but is there a way for my TrainerRoad plan to appear in Training Peaks. All I need is the activity type, duration, and TSS? Today I manually create them in Training Peaks. Iā€™m assuming this will create issues with the new feature? Will it bring duplicates into TR?? ---
**Author:** ![fl33tStA](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/fl33tsta/32/174372_2.png) [@fl33tStA](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/fl33tStA)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2020, 11:03am UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/build-sync-custom-workouts-from-training-peaks-final-surge/37650/31 "2020-06-13T11:03:30Z")
yes, that would be fine, so you havenā€™t the manual work in Trainings Peaks! ---
**Author:** ![WombleHunter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/9de053/32.png) [@WombleHunter](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/WombleHunter)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2020, 11:08am UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/build-sync-custom-workouts-from-training-peaks-final-surge/37650/32 "2020-06-13T11:08:06Z")
Respect TR, this has been my the main reason Iā€™ve been using Zwift over TR for a long time, might reconsider ---
**Author:** ![Adam](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/adam/32/20672_2.png) [@Adam](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/Adam)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2020, 11:31am UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/build-sync-custom-workouts-from-training-peaks-final-surge/37650/34 "2020-06-13T11:31:56Z")
For me personally the big difference and the issue with the TrainerRoad workout creator is it is built in Adobe Air. I completely understand the whole technical debt of this product and how it is not a priority currently but I just can not install Adobe Air just for the one app. That said the Training Peaks workout creator can be fiddly, especially on smaller screens. One platform I think that have nailed the creator side of things in Trainer Day. Very quick to create workouts and easy to export. TrainerRoad, Iā€™m sure you are working on a creator update, use Trainer Day for a bit and mix in some of your next level goodness. ---
**Author:** ![splash](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ac8455/32.png) [@splash](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/splash)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2020, 2:53pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/build-sync-custom-workouts-from-training-peaks-final-surge/37650/35 "2020-06-13T14:53:57Z")
Iā€™d honestly prefer it if I could just write a script to create workouts. It wouldnā€™t be much more than a few lines if you had a simple language for it. Think it would be much easier than all the clicking and drop down menus, and translate much easier from how we talk about workouts - eg today I did 4 blocks of 3 x 3 min at 120% with 2 min at 50% in between. One function to take a time duration and a power target (in %ftp), and perhaps one for creating a ramp. Be able to loop over things, and youā€™re done. ---
**Author:** ![splash](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ac8455/32.png) [@splash](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/splash)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2020, 6:06pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/build-sync-custom-workouts-from-training-peaks-final-surge/37650/37 "2020-06-13T18:06:42Z")
I havenā€™t got the workout creator, tbh I canā€™t be bothered to work out if and how to install it on my linux system. Also TR has enough workouts, so havenā€™t really felt the need to make my own. It was more a comment in general, I just find it easier to type something like power(120,3) for a 3min 120ftp block, than to create boxes with a gui. Itā€™d be nice if there was an option in the new workout creator TR are building to just type a few lines. Should probably just find and erg file somewhere and have a look šŸ˜‚ ---
**Author:** ![splash](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ac8455/32.png) [@splash](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/splash)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2020, 6:38pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/build-sync-custom-workouts-from-training-peaks-final-surge/37650/39 "2020-06-13T18:38:06Z")
Definitively a dual mode - I find it quicker to describe in text what I want, but a lot easier to visually check itā€™s correct! A pseudo-language wouldnā€™t need much, it could basically be some sort of alias/shortcut definition for the approx three things youā€™d want to define. ---
**Author:** ![davidtinker](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/davidtinker/32/17576_2.png) [@davidtinker](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/davidtinker)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2020, 6:38pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/build-sync-custom-workouts-from-training-peaks-final-surge/37650/40 "2020-06-13T18:38:33Z")
šŸ™‚ I am about to start working on a workout creator in Intervals.icu and my first step is to define a text language. Wont have loops but you can just cut and paste to dup intervals as required. ---
**Author:** ![splash](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ac8455/32.png) [@splash](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/splash)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2020, 6:40pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/build-sync-custom-workouts-from-training-peaks-final-surge/37650/41 "2020-06-13T18:40:29Z")
Great! Yes, I was thinking loops wouldnā€™t really be necessary, until I thought about defining blocks of 30/30s or soā€¦ You could probably make the loop an alias too; it would just copy-paste its body before saving. ---
**Author:** ![ErickVH](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/erickvh/32/15689_2.png) [@ErickVH](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/ErickVH)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2020, 6:47pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/build-sync-custom-workouts-from-training-peaks-final-surge/37650/43 "2020-06-13T18:47:58Z")
Just use a yml schema. ---
**Author:** ![splash](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ac8455/32.png) [@splash](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/splash)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2020, 6:59pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/build-sync-custom-workouts-from-training-peaks-final-surge/37650/45 "2020-06-13T18:59:41Z")
Iā€™m probably way wrong with how Iā€™m describing this language šŸ˜‚ I imagine something like a button in the gui that makes a textbox pop up, where you can define your blocks simply by power and the duration to hold it there (power in ftp or absolute). Maybe also a way to define ramp ups and downs (ie, two power values and a duration). Whatever power you type, youā€™ll get a visual representation in blue blocks shown in the graph part. It would be easy to have a bit of text next to it that gives you running metrics like total duration, and if you give it an ftp value (not necessarily your own), TSS, IF, TiZ etc. ---
**Author:** ![splash](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ac8455/32.png) [@splash](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/splash)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2020, 7:07pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/build-sync-custom-workouts-from-training-peaks-final-surge/37650/47 "2020-06-13T19:07:39Z")
Yeah, I get what youā€™re saying, but it would be neat if this was somehow integrated in a workout creator, so that you could script your workout and instantely get a visual representation. ---
**Author:** ![iannomah](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/iannomah/32/43091_2.png) [@iannomah](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/iannomah)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2020, 8:38pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/build-sync-custom-workouts-from-training-peaks-final-surge/37650/49 "2020-06-13T20:38:52Z")
Great great news , bye bye trainer road creator ! ( šŸ˜) But please make my training peaks workout planned for indoor AND outdoor !! thank you for all ---
**Author:** ![achase6002](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/achase6002/32/7757_2.png) [@achase6002](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/achase6002)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2020, 12:44am UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/build-sync-custom-workouts-from-training-peaks-final-surge/37650/50 "2020-06-14T00:44:48Z")
Can I do the custom created workouts from training peaks outside through trainerroadā€¦i know I could use the training peaks outside workoutā€¦but traineroads is better ---
**Author:** ![davidtinker](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/davidtinker/32/17576_2.png) [@davidtinker](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/davidtinker)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2020, 5:26pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/build-sync-custom-workouts-from-training-peaks-final-surge/37650/51 "2020-06-14T17:26:32Z")
I want this to be editable by non-developers and very forgiving, YAML is too strict for that. ---
**Author:** ![davidtinker](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/davidtinker/32/17576_2.png) [@davidtinker](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/davidtinker)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2020, 5:27pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/build-sync-custom-workouts-from-training-peaks-final-surge/37650/52 "2020-06-14T17:27:38Z")
Ok. It is getting loops! Too verbose otherwise. [Previous page](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/build-sync-custom-workouts-from-training-peaks-final-surge/37650.md?page=1) [Next page](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/build-sync-custom-workouts-from-training-peaks-final-surge/37650.md?page=3)