# Bib shorts (probably any cycling shorts) are a scam **URL:** \ **Category:** Equipment\ **Tags:** clothing\ **Created:** [May 14, 2020, 2:43pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/bib-shorts-probably-any-cycling-shorts-are-a-scam/35935 "2020-05-14T14:43:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![LaFarrapona](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/lafarrapona/32/14704_2.png) [@LaFarrapona](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/LaFarrapona)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2020, 2:43pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/bib-shorts-probably-any-cycling-shorts-are-a-scam/35935/1 "2020-05-14T14:43:59Z")
So friggin expensive, all the serious cycling people telling you how important chamois quality is. But why can everyone see my ass while the chamois is still in excellent shape?? What is the point of a high quality chamois if you can’t wear them after say 2? years because they are basically see through by then? 2 years or rotating through 4 different pairs so its not like they are used daily, maybe 1 to 2 per week Is there a brand where the lyrcra material is thicker or better that can last longer? I think i am going to give the chinese ebay stuff a try, its usaually around $20 ---
**Author:** ![ABG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e274bd/32.png) [@ABG](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/ABG)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2020, 2:49pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/bib-shorts-probably-any-cycling-shorts-are-a-scam/35935/2 "2020-05-14T14:49:05Z")
I have bib shorts that have been worn at least 400 times and still are not see through. Shorts shouldnt go in the dryer ---
**Author:** ![scottmarlowe](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/scottmarlowe/32/18529_2.png) [@scottmarlowe](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/scottmarlowe)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2020, 2:54pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/bib-shorts-probably-any-cycling-shorts-are-a-scam/35935/3 "2020-05-14T14:54:17Z")
I have shorts I’ve worn over hundreds of rides and no one’s ever complained about seeing my ass. 🙂 Some of mine are better than others as far as chafing and soreness both on the bike and after. I’ve tossed a few pairs in the trash simply because they’re old and no longer effective. For those that are still moderately good quality, I use a liberal amount of chamoise cream and that seems to offset any chafing issues. There’s another thread on here that goes into great length about different brands. Right now, for me, I’m finding Rapha’s are working well for me. No chafing and minimal soreness in the saddle over long rides. ---
**Author:** ![JoeX](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/joex/32/6640_2.png) [@JoeX](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/JoeX)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2020, 2:57pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/bib-shorts-probably-any-cycling-shorts-are-a-scam/35935/4 "2020-05-14T14:57:53Z")
🤣 Great thread 👍 ---
**Author:** ![Stringwise](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/stringwise/32/8504_2.png) [@Stringwise](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/Stringwise)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2020, 3:01pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/bib-shorts-probably-any-cycling-shorts-are-a-scam/35935/5 "2020-05-14T15:01:24Z")
> [@ABG](#): > > I have bib shorts that have been worn at least 400 times and still are not see through. Shorts shouldnt go in the dryer I have my team kit bibs from 2012 that I still wear, with dignity. 🤷‍♂️ ---
**Author:** ![mwglow15](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/mwglow15/32/28576_2.png) [@mwglow15](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/mwglow15)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2020, 3:02pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/bib-shorts-probably-any-cycling-shorts-are-a-scam/35935/6 "2020-05-14T15:02:11Z")
The best place to start this discussion is probably saying what brands and trim level bibs you are currently wearing. They might have a reputation of being delicate materials and people could point you toward better/longer lasting bib shorts. In general I think high end racing/aero/lightweight bib shorts are going to wear faster. But so will super budget ones. Also, If the chamois is still good but the lycra part isn’t, then I would just relegate them to trainer duty and then buy new pairs for outdoor use. ---
**Author:** ![scottmarlowe](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/scottmarlowe/32/18529_2.png) [@scottmarlowe](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/scottmarlowe)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2020, 3:10pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/bib-shorts-probably-any-cycling-shorts-are-a-scam/35935/7 "2020-05-14T15:10:31Z")
> [@ABG](#): > > Shorts shouldnt go in the dryer Word. We don’t put shorts, gloves, jerseys, headbands, warmers, or (sometimes) socks in the dryer. ---
**Author:** ![mcneese.chad](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/mcneese.chad/32/15056_2.png) [@mcneese.chad](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/mcneese.chad)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2020, 3:15pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/bib-shorts-probably-any-cycling-shorts-are-a-scam/35935/8 "2020-05-14T15:15:01Z")
Worthless without see-thru bib pics ? 😛 ---
**Author:** ![ABG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e274bd/32.png) [@ABG](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/ABG)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2020, 3:19pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/bib-shorts-probably-any-cycling-shorts-are-a-scam/35935/9 "2020-05-14T15:19:20Z")
Same here, I have a pair that were crashed. I still wear them for a good crit to put a little fear in the people next to me. Speaking on the dryer, no active wear should go in there, causes bacteria growth and that results in those weird smells ---
**Author:** ![Pasque](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/pasque/32/47338_2.png) [@Pasque](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/Pasque)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2020, 3:20pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/bib-shorts-probably-any-cycling-shorts-are-a-scam/35935/10 "2020-05-14T15:20:10Z")
I have my Ekoi bibs for almost 3 years now… still going strong (As comparison I burned through a pair of Jeans in about the same time frame 😛) ---
**Author:** ![Prefoto76](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/prefoto76/32/40074_2.png) [@Prefoto76](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/Prefoto76)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2020, 3:23pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/bib-shorts-probably-any-cycling-shorts-are-a-scam/35935/11 "2020-05-14T15:23:01Z")
How can we confirm the quality without them? ---
**Author:** ![JoeX](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/joex/32/6640_2.png) [@JoeX](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/JoeX)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2020, 3:26pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/bib-shorts-probably-any-cycling-shorts-are-a-scam/35935/12 "2020-05-14T15:26:56Z")
🤢 ---
**Author:** ![Pbase](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/pbase/32/969_2.png) [@Pbase](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/Pbase)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2020, 3:48pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/bib-shorts-probably-any-cycling-shorts-are-a-scam/35935/13 "2020-05-14T15:48:53Z")
As said before, need to know exactly which bibs you are talking about. ---
**Author:** ![Slowhands](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/slowhands/32/15999_2.png) [@Slowhands](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/Slowhands)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2020, 4:11pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/bib-shorts-probably-any-cycling-shorts-are-a-scam/35935/14 "2020-05-14T16:11:12Z")
We need more information than that - frequency is arguably even more important. I don’t think the best bibs in the world could hold up to daily wear, especially on a stationary trainer. How often are you riding in them? ---
**Author:** ![Joelrivera](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/joelrivera/32/145557_2.png) [@Joelrivera](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/Joelrivera)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2020, 4:21pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/bib-shorts-probably-any-cycling-shorts-are-a-scam/35935/15 "2020-05-14T16:21:05Z")
> [@LaFarrapona](#): > > What is the point of a high quality chamois if you can’t wear them after say 2? years because they are basically see through by then? 2 years or rotating through 4 different pairs so its not like they are used daily, maybe 1 to 2 per week My first short i got on sale for 30$ back in 2012. I still have it and is as comfortable as ever. The last cycling pant i got was in 2015 and still works great! I have a total of 1 short, 3 bibs, 2 skin suits. I just use them once per week. Hang them to dry and when i run out of short i wash them… repeat… ---
**Author:** ![anon67840561](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/919ad9/32.png) [@anon67840561](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/anon67840561)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2020, 4:25pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/bib-shorts-probably-any-cycling-shorts-are-a-scam/35935/16 "2020-05-14T16:25:15Z")
I agree… I think bike ‘everything’ is comically expensive, especially clothes. I see no need for the expensive stuff. IMO, like pretty much everything else…it’s just marketing and selling the name of the brand instead of the product. I’ve had zero issues with TheBlackBibs stuff. They are reasonably priced, $40-$60. Personally, I see zero need for anything nicer for any application. I have a couple pairs of dirt cheap bibs/shorts off amazon. The bibs are ‘fine,’ some of the seams cause irritation for rides over 2-3 hrs. The shorts are totally fine. Comfy, and no issues on long rides. ---
**Author:** ![Joelrivera](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/joelrivera/32/145557_2.png) [@Joelrivera](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/Joelrivera)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2020, 4:34pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/bib-shorts-probably-any-cycling-shorts-are-a-scam/35935/17 "2020-05-14T16:34:12Z")
First time i hear about them About to buy a pair! ---
**Author:** ![anon67840561](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/919ad9/32.png) [@anon67840561](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/anon67840561)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2020, 4:48pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/bib-shorts-probably-any-cycling-shorts-are-a-scam/35935/18 "2020-05-14T16:48:01Z")
Very comfy. Just one thing of note though…the cheap ones dont have the thigh grabbies…so bike bibs kinda turn into daisy dukes. I’m not shy…but next time I’d splurge the extra $20 and get the ones with the grabbies. ---
**Author:** ![AdamJ](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/adamj/32/15695_2.png) [@AdamJ](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/AdamJ)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2020, 4:58pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/bib-shorts-probably-any-cycling-shorts-are-a-scam/35935/19 "2020-05-14T16:58:59Z")
> [@ABG](#): > > Same here, I have a pair that were crashed. I still wear them for a good crit to put a little fear in the people next to me Excellent behaviour ---
**Author:** ![Rob1](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/rob1/32/7757_2.png) [@Rob1](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/Rob1)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2020, 5:04pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/bib-shorts-probably-any-cycling-shorts-are-a-scam/35935/20 "2020-05-14T17:04:49Z")
I have some mid range dhb ones that have done 1000s of miles of commuting and turbo work and still seem good as new. I’ve got some expesnive Asos one that I’ve noticed pilling already I think that’s because they clip the bike protector velcro when I’m on the Turbo. I think I’ve only had one pair that have gone see through and they were dhb ones that I’d had for 5 years or more. I never tumble dry any cycling kit, ever. It generally dries in a few hours anyway [Next page](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/bib-shorts-probably-any-cycling-shorts-are-a-scam/35935.md?page=2)