# Are Progression Levels just new name for Training Zones?

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**Created:** [March 2, 2021, 1:32am UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/are-progression-levels-just-new-name-for-training-zones/54447 "2021-03-02T01:32:33Z")\
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**Post date:** [March 2, 2021, 1:32am UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/are-progression-levels-just-new-name-for-training-zones/54447/1 "2021-03-02T01:32:33Z")

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@seanhurley @mcneese.chad @ncomerford @nate_pearson @bried

The progression levels seem to be merely Training Zones by another name, eg, Endurance 70%, SS 80%, VO2Max 90%, etc?

However, what do workouts in these Levels/zones develop? Is it things like:

Aerobic Power  
Aerobic Endurance  
Aerobic Capacity  
Anaerobic Power  
Anaerobic Capacity  
Anaerobic endurance  
Muscular Endurance  
VO2Max  
Various Thresholds - whatever they really are

What do these things need, or develop?

What would benefit a Crit Racer, from a MTB XC, Time Trialist, short or long distance Triathlete, tour rider, etc?

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**Post date:** [March 2, 2021, 1:40am UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/are-progression-levels-just-new-name-for-training-zones/54447/2 "2021-03-02T01:40:56Z")

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This post might answer part of your question; the progression levels are within the training zones.

> [@tada tada tada Introducing Adaptive Training! tada tada tada](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/introducing-adaptive-training/54025/1133):
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> Every workout in the catalog now has a detailed difficulty ranking, and is also included in specific sub-progressions within each training plan. So your ability to complete workouts does not directly influence what the next workout you’ll receive will be. Instead, the workouts you complete determine your Progression Level for that energy system, and then within your training plan each workout is chosen to match your progression level, within the context of the specific difficulty/workout type yo…

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**Post date:** [March 2, 2021, 1:54am UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/are-progression-levels-just-new-name-for-training-zones/54447/3 "2021-03-02T01:54:55Z")

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Doesn’t really answer my thoughts, but thank you.

Humans generate energy via three systems: phosphagen (ATP-PC), glycolytic, and oxidative. Not that I am asking about them directly, but these are well established, formal, scientific categories of our energy systems. AT says the Progression Levels are energy systems, but clearly not these 3? So, even more confusion.

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**Author:** ![SeanHurley](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/seanhurley/32/55555_2.png) [@SeanHurley](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/SeanHurley)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2021, 2:54am UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/are-progression-levels-just-new-name-for-training-zones/54447/4 "2021-03-02T02:54:50Z")

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Progression Levels are a comparative ranking of your current capabilities to train and ride in each training zone, at your current FTP. For instance, relative to my FTP I’m not always as able to complete difficult Threshold Intervals as I might be to complete difficult intervals within my VO2 max training zone, but these capabilities change with training and a different balance of abilities is desirable in each discipline. Progression levels are a way for us to track these strengths and weaknesses, and assign more suitable workouts that target each specific skill set as you work towards a goal event or discipline.  
And you’re correct, Training Zones are related to energy systems, but they aren’t the same. Training Zones are a well-established way of organizing the spectrum of physiological demands that occur while riding at different intensities, and help conceptualize how the burden shifts between the body’s 3 energy systems in a way that’s understandable and relevant to the actual experience of cycling. Sometimes the phrase _Energy Systems_ is used synonymously with “training zone” in conversation (as I did in that quote) but that’s not correct. Training zones are really just a way to quantify and organize training at different intensities, with the intention of addressing the specific balance of energy system capabilities that your discipline requires. We use a power-based seven zone model, you can check out a blog post on it [here.](https://www.trainerroad.com/blog/cycling-power-zones-training-zones-explained/)  
I hope that helps!

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**Post date:** [May 28, 2021, 4:08pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/are-progression-levels-just-new-name-for-training-zones/54447/6 "2021-05-28T16:08:52Z")

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Where can I see progression levels??

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**Post date:** [May 28, 2021, 4:09pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/are-progression-levels-just-new-name-for-training-zones/54447/7 "2021-05-28T16:09:53Z")

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Assuming you are in the Adaptive Training Beta, the Progression Levels are shown on the Career page of the TrainerRoad apps and website of your account.

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**Post date:** [May 28, 2021, 4:27pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/are-progression-levels-just-new-name-for-training-zones/54447/8 "2021-05-28T16:27:09Z")

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> [@mcneese.chad](#):
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> Adaptive Training Data

Thanks.  
Well, I am following a TR training plan…and I don’t know what it is Adaptive Training Data…

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**Post date:** [May 28, 2021, 4:29pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/are-progression-levels-just-new-name-for-training-zones/54447/9 "2021-05-28T16:29:04Z")

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> [@tada tada tada Introducing Adaptive Training! tada tada tada](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/introducing-adaptive-training/54025):
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> There have been rumors, not-so-subtle hints, and plenty of feature requests over the years touching on different aspects of what we’ve been building here at TrainerRoad. Today, we’re thrilled to finally announce Adaptive Training! This is an entirely new foundation of TrainerRoad that uses machine learning, science-based coaching principles, and our unprecedented data set to give you the right workout, every time. Adaptive Training does this all through taking your performance, life, and goal…

This is in a Beta program now (Data above was a typo, that I just fixed), so you will only have access to Progression Levels if you get invited to the current Beta test program, or when they fully release Adaptive Training to all users.
