# AI FTP detection vs Ramp Test vs. 20 min test **URL:** \ **Category:** TrainerRoad Software\ **Created:** [December 11, 2023, 7:12pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/ai-ftp-detection-vs-ramp-test-vs-20-min-test/89014 "2023-12-11T19:12:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 116
**Author:** ![WindWarrior](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/windwarrior/32/84679_2.png) [@WindWarrior](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/WindWarrior)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2024, 11:09pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/ai-ftp-detection-vs-ramp-test-vs-20-min-test/89014/116 "2024-03-15T23:09:04Z")
We do know the basics of how it works: > [@AI FTP Detection Is Now Available for Everyone! tadatadatadatadatada](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/ai-ftp-detection-is-now-available-for-everyone/78237): > > Highlights AI FTP Detection is available to all TrainerRoad subscribers! AI FTP Detection is 38% less likely to overestimate your FTP vs. the 20-Minute Test AI FTP Detection is 75% less likely to underestimate your FTP vs. the 20-Minute Test AI FTP Detection is 40% less likely to underestimate your FTP vs. the Ramp Test Powered by a machine learning model tested and improved through 1,200 iterations Validated with over 22,000 athletes over 9 months Takes into account indoor and outdoor rides N… And I listened to the podcast where Nate provided a few more high level details. I’m paraphrasing and oversimplifying, but it’s pretty straightforward and I could build a model having dabbled in modeling and machine learning since the early 1990s (learned it from 3 Stanford PhDs and an IEEE Fellow) 🤷‍♂️ Not saying my programming skills are up to snuff for production quality code…. I’m a sales engineer not an actual engineer. --- _[View the full topic](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/ai-ftp-detection-vs-ramp-test-vs-20-min-test/89014)._