Aggressive Racing, Sprint Power, Over-Unders and More – Ask a Cycling Coach 297

Lol! Smack talk!

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Found the Radical Candor part of the podcast really insightful and useful whilst doing my Wednesday easy ride today. Kudos to @Nate_Pearson for living Radical Candor and keeping a dignified silence on some of the controversial forum topics this week.

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I always thought there were a bunch of snowflakes on this forum.

That username was a good snag. :wink:


This is hilarious!

I try not to put too much stock into segments generally, but one time I got word a certain guy was spitting on less experienced riders on a local group ride. He had already established a pattern of being unacceptably, unjustifiably rude and condescending, and it was clear the spitting was intentional. I myself was not a regular on this group ride, and I did not know him. I did, however, witness an instance of the spitting and along with credible intel, concluded this jerk needed to learn a lesson. So, I did a big ride and took every single one of his precious KOMs in one day, and then basked in the mental image of his inbox. So far, the best use of segments I’ve encountered, personally. :wink:


EPIC PWNAGE!!! :rofl: :crown:


Reminds me of this story about a SR-71 blackbird pilot:

I’ll always remember a certain radio exchange that occurred one day as Walt (my back-seater) and I were screaming across Southern California 13 miles high.

We were monitoring various radio transmissions from other aircraft as we entered Los Angeles airspace.

Though they didn’t really control us, they did monitor our movement across their scope.

I heard a Cessna ask for a readout of its ground speed.
’90 knots’ Center replied.

Moments later,a Twin Beech required the same.
‘120 knots,’ Center answered.

We weren’t the only ones proud of our ground speed that day…as almost instantly an [F-18] smugly transmitted, ‘Ah, Center, Dusty 52 requests ground speed readout.’
There was [a slight pause], then the response, ‘620 knots on the ground, Dusty.’

Another silent pause.

As I was thinking to myself how ripe a situation this was, I heard a familiar click of a radio transmission coming from my back-seater. It was at that precise moment I realized Walt and I had become a real crew, for we were both thinking in unison.
‘Center, Aspen 20, you got a ground speed readout for us?’
There was a longer than normal pause … ‘Aspen, I show 1,942 knots.’

No further inquiries were heard on that frequency.”


NY to London in under 2 hours. That was some machine. And built over 50 years ago.


@Nate_Pearson Only just finished listening to this episode and I am SHOCKED. How dare you disparage the wondrous workout that is Disaster!? Every moment of Disaster is a pure delight.

I think @mcneese.chad will back me up on this one…



TBH, it looks like my weekend group rides.


Then be ready for 11 December!


Now that is epic!

Regarding UCI’s ban on positions, I’m with @Nate_Pearson on this one. Both positions should be banned for safety. Here are my primary reasons:

Super-tuck position
Even if one can handle the bike in that position, most modern carbon frames aren’t designed for vertical loads on the top tube (Josh Poertner discusses this on the Marginal Gains podcast; sorry, don’t remember the episode). So hitting a bump in that position can cause the frame to fail catastrophically. Once a clubmate of mine slipped off his pedal and landed on the top tube (ouch!) of his carbon frame. The toptube broke cleanly in the middle! Yeah, a bump on a descent may not be the same as landing full body weight onto a toptube, but it’s just not worth the risk.

Invisible aerobars position (aka puppy dog, praying mantis)
This one is also dangerous for a similar reason, hitting a bump. With no grip on the bars, hitting a bump or pothole can cause your forearms to slide off, throwing your chest into the handlebars. THIS HAS ALREADY HAPPENED! Allison Tetrick crashed like this in the 2015 USA Cycling Professional Road National Championships in Chattanooga. In her case she even had her hands somewhat on the hoods, but since most of her weight was on her forearms, it still caused her to go down. Here’s the video (crash occurs @ 46:16):

I agree that both these bans will probably decrease the success of solo and small-group breakaways, but safety should take precedence. Maybe UCI could reconsider allowing Spinaci- and Scott drop-in-style bars from years ago?! :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

While these long-forgotten bars also reduce accessibility to your brakes, at least you can get a proper grip on the bars (with thumbs wrapped) while being aero.

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