# Aero bikes do they actually make a difference **URL:** \ **Category:** Equipment\ **Created:** [October 18, 2024, 5:14pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/aero-bikes-do-they-actually-make-a-difference/97376 "2024-10-18T17:14:48Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![colin\_n](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/colin_n/32/12908_2.png) [@colin\_n](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/colin_n)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2024, 4:20am UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/aero-bikes-do-they-actually-make-a-difference/97376/64 "2024-10-22T04:20:12Z")
Out of interest do you have any comparable data for the CAAD12 with non-aero wheels? I’ve got a CAAD12 and wondering about upgrading the wheels on it. ---
**Author:** ![JoeX](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/joex/32/6640_2.png) [@JoeX](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/JoeX)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2024, 7:39am UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/aero-bikes-do-they-actually-make-a-difference/97376/65 "2024-10-22T07:39:28Z")
> [@davidsparkinson](#): > > beginning to think aero dynamic frames don’t make a discernible difference. You’re straying into the world of cost/benefit analysis - but imo you just can’t be objective. It’s a hiding to nothing. In the words of Revlon - they are selling hope, and it’s up to you to buy it or not. Buy the bike you like the look of and enjoy it. Don’t sweat the small stuff. Unless seconds matter to you. ---
**Author:** ![davidsparkinson](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/davidsparkinson/32/8153_2.png) [@davidsparkinson](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/davidsparkinson)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2024, 8:37am UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/aero-bikes-do-they-actually-make-a-difference/97376/66 "2024-10-22T08:37:13Z")
> [@JoeX](#): > > You’re straying into the world of cost/benefit analysis - but imo you just can’t be objective. It’s a hiding to nothing. In the words of Revlon - they are selling hope, and it’s up to you to buy it or not. > > Buy the bike you like the look of and enjoy it. Don’t sweat the small stuff. > > Unless seconds matter to you. Yeah I wasn’t expecting such a long and spirited thread to be honest. Somewhere in it I did say if you’re competing and every second counts then they’re probably going to be worth it. I personally just haven’t noticed much if any difference across my 2 current bikes and thinking about my previous 3 bikes. Each to their own, ride what makes you happy. ---
**Author:** ![tuff\_plantano](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/tuff_plantano/32/141477_2.png) [@tuff\_plantano](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/tuff_plantano)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2024, 8:52am UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/aero-bikes-do-they-actually-make-a-difference/97376/67 "2024-10-22T08:52:53Z")
Moving to an aero bike took around 30 seconds off my times on the local 10 mile TT courses, other factors being equal-ish - power, equipment, clothing and the older bike had similar depth aero wheels. For me, as a road bike TTer, that seems a significant difference Plus, it just feels quicker 😀 ---
**Author:** ![JoeX](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/joex/32/6640_2.png) [@JoeX](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/JoeX)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2024, 11:51am UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/aero-bikes-do-they-actually-make-a-difference/97376/68 "2024-10-22T11:51:51Z")
Next time pick something non-controversial like disc vs rim or sock height 😉 But’s a reasonable question you’ve posed. I look at it as someone who uses a tri bike regularly where I might save a fairly non-controversial 15 minutes in an Ironman by addressing the biggest issue in aerodynamics - even then am I sure it’s worth the cost of a ££££ bike? But although I am somewhat cynical, I’m not downplaying those who have a different use case and different maths which makes an aero road bike worthwhile for them. ---
**Author:** ![davidsparkinson](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/davidsparkinson/32/8153_2.png) [@davidsparkinson](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/davidsparkinson)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2024, 12:25pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/aero-bikes-do-they-actually-make-a-difference/97376/69 "2024-10-22T12:25:49Z")
> [@JoeX](#): > > I look at it as someone who uses a tri bike regularly where I might save a fairly non-controversial 15 minutes in an Ironman by addressing the biggest issue in aerodynamics - even then am I sure it’s worth the cost of a ££££ bike? Yeah I use my aerobike with tri bars for ironman, I’ve bought all the aero stuff, helmets, socks etc in a bid to save a few a seconds when in reality I’m losing 15 minutes in the swim and probably an hour to the leaders on the run. ---
**Author:** ![Power13](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/power13/32/92171_2.png) [@Power13](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/Power13)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2024, 12:34pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/aero-bikes-do-they-actually-make-a-difference/97376/70 "2024-10-22T12:34:15Z")
> [@davidsparkinson](#): > > I’ve bought all the aero stuff, helmets, socks etc in a bid to save a few a seconds when in reality I’m losing 15 minutes in the swim and probably an hour to the leaders on the run These things are not mutually exclusive….you are not sacrificing your time on the run because you invested in gear to make you faster on the bike. The time saved on the bike is still time saved. You can have marginal gains on the bike and still work on improving the other legs of the sport. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![davidsparkinson](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/davidsparkinson/32/8153_2.png) [@davidsparkinson](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/davidsparkinson)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2024, 12:51pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/aero-bikes-do-they-actually-make-a-difference/97376/71 "2024-10-22T12:51:59Z")
Oh I realise that but I also realise my time and money would be more productive having some swim coaching and spending some time in the gym, but where the fun in that? 😂 ---
**Author:** ![sasa](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/sasa/32/22910_2.png) [@sasa](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/sasa)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2024, 1:24pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/aero-bikes-do-they-actually-make-a-difference/97376/72 "2024-10-22T13:24:14Z")
Money won’t buy you time on the swim, but it bought you a lot of time on the bike. On a long course tri (half/full), you’re talking minutes and not seconds. ---
**Author:** ![teddygram](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/teddygram/32/12895_2.png) [@teddygram](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/teddygram)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2024, 1:28pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/aero-bikes-do-they-actually-make-a-difference/97376/73 "2024-10-22T13:28:46Z")
> [@colin\_n](#): > > Out of interest do you have any comparable data for the CAAD12 with non-aero wheels? I’ve got a CAAD12 and wondering about upgrading the wheels on it. The CAAD12 is faster than the new Orbea orca aero because the Orca is a disc brake bike and the CAAD12 is a rim brake bike. They are both setup closely and similar positions, ive come across this same dilemma in that “I” want a new bike but I actually want to buy a fast bike so I am actually considering looking at old aero rim brake bikes. ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/original/3X/6/a/6a8da2e0896d0c5c7e784eba14d07d2441487768.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![davidsparkinson](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/davidsparkinson/32/8153_2.png) [@davidsparkinson](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/davidsparkinson)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2024, 1:44pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/aero-bikes-do-they-actually-make-a-difference/97376/74 "2024-10-22T13:44:27Z")
> [@sasa](#): > > Money won’t buy you time on the swim, but it bought you a lot of time on the bike. On a long course tri (half/full), you’re talking minutes and not seconds. Only fly in that ointment is my ironman was Bolton, UK with 16000ft of climbing and a very low average speed. ---
**Author:** ![davidsparkinson](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/davidsparkinson/32/8153_2.png) [@davidsparkinson](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/davidsparkinson)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2024, 1:46pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/aero-bikes-do-they-actually-make-a-difference/97376/75 "2024-10-22T13:46:05Z")
Sorry 12000 feet ---
**Author:** ![sasa](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/sasa/32/22910_2.png) [@sasa](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/sasa)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2024, 1:57pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/aero-bikes-do-they-actually-make-a-difference/97376/76 "2024-10-22T13:57:59Z")
HAHAHAHA savage … but I mean, that’s very much so an exception in the long-course triathlon world. And then money could have bought you time, just had to buy a lighter bike/helmet/etc. 😂 ---
**Author:** ![Henry\_Lee](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/henry_lee/32/19505_2.png) [@Henry\_Lee](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/Henry_Lee)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2024, 2:01pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/aero-bikes-do-they-actually-make-a-difference/97376/77 "2024-10-22T14:01:07Z")
Define “need”. ---
**Author:** ![davidsparkinson](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/davidsparkinson/32/8153_2.png) [@davidsparkinson](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/davidsparkinson)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2024, 2:01pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/aero-bikes-do-they-actually-make-a-difference/97376/78 "2024-10-22T14:01:16Z")
I hope you’re not suggesting lighter bikes are faster than aero bikes? World War 3 could break out here. 😂 ---
**Author:** ![davidsparkinson](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/davidsparkinson/32/8153_2.png) [@davidsparkinson](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/davidsparkinson)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2024, 2:03pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/aero-bikes-do-they-actually-make-a-difference/97376/79 "2024-10-22T14:03:01Z")
😂 🤦 That’s fishing for comments 🎣 ---
**Author:** ![Alexander\_Hardy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/alexander_hardy/32/147862_2.png) [@Alexander\_Hardy](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/Alexander_Hardy)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2024, 3:16pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/aero-bikes-do-they-actually-make-a-difference/97376/80 "2024-10-22T15:16:42Z")
My caad12 was much slower, even with fancy aero parts. ---
**Author:** ![Alexander\_Hardy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/alexander_hardy/32/147862_2.png) [@Alexander\_Hardy](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/Alexander_Hardy)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2024, 3:18pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/aero-bikes-do-they-actually-make-a-difference/97376/81 "2024-10-22T15:18:35Z")
Sorry I’ve only ever had carbon wheels on my caad12. You could probaly add 10 extra 10 seconds on to the times by putting shallow wheels on. ---
**Author:** ![teddygram](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/teddygram/32/12895_2.png) [@teddygram](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/teddygram)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2024, 3:30pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/aero-bikes-do-they-actually-make-a-difference/97376/82 "2024-10-22T15:30:28Z")
I apologize, I was distastefully fishing was all (although my statements could be true about a Aero rim brake frame). ---
**Author:** ![davidsparkinson](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/davidsparkinson/32/8153_2.png) [@davidsparkinson](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/davidsparkinson)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2024, 3:54pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/aero-bikes-do-they-actually-make-a-difference/97376/83 "2024-10-22T15:54:04Z")
Apology not necessary, It made me laugh. Someone out there must have been biting there lip. My aero bike is rim brake by the way 😂 [Previous page](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/aero-bikes-do-they-actually-make-a-difference/97376.md?page=3) [Next page](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/aero-bikes-do-they-actually-make-a-difference/97376.md?page=5)