# Ability to schedule recovery weeks more frequently (2 on, 1 off) \[Feature Request\] **URL:** \ **Category:** TrainerRoad Software\ **Tags:** feature-request\ **Created:** [May 22, 2020, 12:52pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/ability-to-schedule-recovery-weeks-more-frequently-2-on-1-off-feature-request/36402 "2020-05-22T12:52:25Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 19\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![jmarquez1991](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/jmarquez1991/32/16892_2.png) [@jmarquez1991](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/jmarquez1991)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2020, 12:52pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/ability-to-schedule-recovery-weeks-more-frequently-2-on-1-off-feature-request/36402/1 "2020-05-22T12:52:25Z")
Is there an item in the feature backlog enabling a user to indicate more frequent recovery weeks? A 2 on - 1 off template is common among older athletes and those who don’t recover as quickly (like myself). If not, is there guidance I could leverage to determine how to break up the current training plans into this cadence? Thanks for the consideration. ---
**Author:** ![Scheherazade](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/scheherazade/32/18857_2.png) [@Scheherazade](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/Scheherazade)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2020, 1:16pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/ability-to-schedule-recovery-weeks-more-frequently-2-on-1-off-feature-request/36402/2 "2020-05-22T13:16:16Z")
No automatic way of doing it as far as I know but there have been previous threads on how to adjust the plans to include more recovery weeks. This might be a good place to start, both in terms of how it can work, and how to actually do it on the calendar: > [@Alternate Sweet Spot Base, Work : Recovery Week Layout](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/alternate-sweet-spot-base-work-recovery-week-layout/8790): > > The following are some possible adjustments that can be made to the Sweet Spot Base plans. The goal is to shorten the number of “Work Weeks” between “Recovery Weeks”. It can be helpful for those who find the default 5 Work to 1 Recovery schedule too taxing. This may include Masters riders and anyone else looking to reduce the fatigue between recovery weeks. It adds one total week to the typical cycle and makes the full Sweet Spot Base a total of 13 weeks (instead of the default 12 weeks). … ---
**Author:** ![mcneese.chad](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/mcneese.chad/32/15056_2.png) [@mcneese.chad](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/mcneese.chad)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2020, 1:49pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/ability-to-schedule-recovery-weeks-more-frequently-2-on-1-off-feature-request/36402/3 "2020-05-22T13:49:43Z")
As linked above, that covers the Sweet Spot Base pattern changing: - From 5:1 + 5:1 = 12 Weeks Total - To 4:1 + 3:1 + 3:1 = 13 Weeks Total * * * I am currently testing my own change in Build and have been meaning to document it, so here is the first draft: - From **3:1 + 3:1 = 8 Weeks** Total - To **2:1 + 2:1 + 2:1 = 9 Weeks** Total # Instructions for Alternate Build or Specialty, Work : Recovery Week Layout: 1. **Apply the desired Build or Specialty plan** to your calendar. 2. **Push Week 3** down one week. 3. **Push Week 3** down one week again (_this makes two open weeks, after Week 2_). 4. **Copy Week 4** (Recovery) up into the first open week (_right after Week 2_). 5. **Move Week 5** up to the final open week (_right after the new Week 4 copy_). 6. **Move the Week 5 annotation** up to match the week move (_this does not happen automatically_). 7. **Pull Week 6** up one week. The final order is: - Week 1 (_Work_) - Week 2 (_Work_) - Week 4 (_Copied Recovery_) - Week 5 (_Work, see note below about order_) - Week 3 (_Work, see note below about order_) - Week 4 (_Recovery_) - Week 6 (_Work / Taper_) - Week 7 (_Work / Taper_) - Week 8 (_Recovery / Taper_) Notes: - I swap Weeks 3 & 5 to get proper TSS ramp up (_needs to build from week to week_). As a bonus, Week 5 includes a Ramp Test by default. - You can swap in a Ramp Test into Week 6 if you want, manually adjust FTP, or leave FTP alone for the final 2:1 segment. ---
**Author:** ![MI-XC](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/mi-xc/32/12993_2.png) [@MI-XC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/MI-XC)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2020, 2:21pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/ability-to-schedule-recovery-weeks-more-frequently-2-on-1-off-feature-request/36402/4 "2020-05-22T14:21:41Z")
Good stuff. I’m learning that Build beats me up and I may need to move to something like that. Currently I just started making z2 days easier (Pettit-1) and recovery weeks easier (SSB1 recovery week). I will look to make those 2 hour Sunday rides a bit easier as well because I’m carrying too much fatigue into the next week. ---
**Author:** ![jmarquez1991](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/jmarquez1991/32/16892_2.png) [@jmarquez1991](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/jmarquez1991)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2020, 3:33pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/ability-to-schedule-recovery-weeks-more-frequently-2-on-1-off-feature-request/36402/6 "2020-05-22T15:33:36Z")
Thanks for the template. My original reply asked a question you clearly answered at the bottom of your comment. 🙂 Appreciate the guidance! ---
**Author:** ![Astarfire](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/astarfire/32/7757_2.png) [@Astarfire](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/Astarfire)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2023, 12:53am UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/ability-to-schedule-recovery-weeks-more-frequently-2-on-1-off-feature-request/36402/7 "2023-02-09T00:53:34Z")
Hi, I do best with 3-week training periods (2 progressive training weeks followed by 1 week rest). Many plans use a 4-week period, but TR often schedules 5 weeks before a rest week. There’s not enough recovery in that plan for older riders. I’ve seen the suggestions for a 9-day week. But I’d rather be able to choose the the number of weeks per block in the periodization schedule. Thanks. ---
**Author:** ![Pbase](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/pbase/32/969_2.png) [@Pbase](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/Pbase)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2023, 10:57am UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/ability-to-schedule-recovery-weeks-more-frequently-2-on-1-off-feature-request/36402/8 "2023-02-10T10:57:21Z")
@mcneese.chad - can we add this to the other requests for Masters plans/more rest weeks? I want to bump those votes up! ---
**Author:** ![mcneese.chad](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/mcneese.chad/32/15056_2.png) [@mcneese.chad](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/mcneese.chad)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2023, 3:10pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/ability-to-schedule-recovery-weeks-more-frequently-2-on-1-off-feature-request/36402/9 "2023-02-10T15:10:50Z")
I am all for merging, but this one is a bit muddy (hence why I haven’t done it yet despite considering this yesterday). Here are some candidates that I am waffling between: - [Plan Builder for Masters Age Athletes [Feature Request]](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/plan-builder-for-masters-age-athletes-feature-request/41152) - [Ability to schedule recovery weeks more frequently (2 on, 1 off) [Feature Request]](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/ability-to-schedule-recovery-weeks-more-frequently-2-on-1-off-feature-request/36402) - [Additional recovery week on demand [Feature Request]](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/additional-recovery-week-on-demand-feature-request/71250) ---
**Author:** ![Pbase](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/pbase/32/969_2.png) [@Pbase](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/Pbase)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2023, 3:26pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/ability-to-schedule-recovery-weeks-more-frequently-2-on-1-off-feature-request/36402/10 "2023-02-10T15:26:13Z")
I hear you. They all merge together. It surprises me that it’s not higher priority given how many high frequency requests it would solve. I was pretty surprised to see running was a higher priority than masters plans and recovery weeks. ---
**Author:** ![Ridolphi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/ridolphi/32/11911_2.png) [@Ridolphi](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/Ridolphi)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2023, 3:42pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/ability-to-schedule-recovery-weeks-more-frequently-2-on-1-off-feature-request/36402/11 "2023-02-10T15:42:05Z")
That would be amazing! I actually do better with more weeks of training before my recovery week. This week was my first week back after the recovery and it hurts to bring my heart rate back to what used to be a comfortable uncomfortable high rate. ---
**Author:** ![Matt\_Sammekull](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/matt_sammekull/32/121677_2.png) [@Matt\_Sammekull](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/Matt_Sammekull)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2023, 3:56pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/ability-to-schedule-recovery-weeks-more-frequently-2-on-1-off-feature-request/36402/12 "2023-02-10T15:56:11Z")
While talking about making plans even more personalized, - it would be fantastic if we in the builder had the opportunity to enter how much time we had for training each day,as in Monday, 75min; Tuesday, 0min, Wednesday 90min etc. ---
**Author:** ![mcneese.chad](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/mcneese.chad/32/15056_2.png) [@mcneese.chad](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/mcneese.chad)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2023, 4:11pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/ability-to-schedule-recovery-weeks-more-frequently-2-on-1-off-feature-request/36402/13 "2023-02-10T16:11:51Z")
> [@Matt\_Sammekull](#): > > the builder had the opportunity to enter how much time we had for training each day That particular idea is already covered by a separate Feature Request: - [Time limit options in Plan Builder [Feature Request]](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/time-limit-options-in-plan-builder-feature-request/27001) ---
**Author:** ![Matt\_Sammekull](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/matt_sammekull/32/121677_2.png) [@Matt\_Sammekull](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/Matt_Sammekull)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2023, 4:14pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/ability-to-schedule-recovery-weeks-more-frequently-2-on-1-off-feature-request/36402/14 "2023-02-10T16:14:24Z")
Cheers, Chad! ---
**Author:** ![Astarfire](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/astarfire/32/7757_2.png) [@Astarfire](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/Astarfire)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2023, 4:18pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/ability-to-schedule-recovery-weeks-more-frequently-2-on-1-off-feature-request/36402/15 "2023-02-10T16:18:39Z")
Absolutely. The 2 weeks on one 1 off request matches mine so that’s where it belongs. I actually did a search before posting but didn’t find that one. ---
**Author:** ![mcneese.chad](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/mcneese.chad/32/15056_2.png) [@mcneese.chad](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/mcneese.chad)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2023, 4:20pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/ability-to-schedule-recovery-weeks-more-frequently-2-on-1-off-feature-request/36402/16 "2023-02-10T16:20:24Z")
OK, I moved your topic and the replies under the 2:1 topic. ---
**Author:** ![Astarfire](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/astarfire/32/7757_2.png) [@Astarfire](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/Astarfire)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2023, 4:23pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/ability-to-schedule-recovery-weeks-more-frequently-2-on-1-off-feature-request/36402/17 "2023-02-10T16:23:11Z")
Can you still modify a plan as described earlier in this thread by moving weeks around, and won’t that mess up the AT feature? ---
**Author:** ![mcneese.chad](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/mcneese.chad/32/15056_2.png) [@mcneese.chad](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/mcneese.chad)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2023, 4:28pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/ability-to-schedule-recovery-weeks-more-frequently-2-on-1-off-feature-request/36402/18 "2023-02-10T16:28:12Z")
Sadly, they removed the [Push-Pull tools](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/bring-back-push-pull-delete-weeks-feature-request/64967) that were key in the usage of my Alternate plans, so it is not as easy to do now. It can be done, but it takes a sledgehammer approach now and I have not taken the effort to document the path because it kinda sucks to be honest. ---
**Author:** ![Astarfire](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/astarfire/32/7757_2.png) [@Astarfire](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/Astarfire)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2023, 4:40pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/ability-to-schedule-recovery-weeks-more-frequently-2-on-1-off-feature-request/36402/19 "2023-02-10T16:40:10Z")
Yeah, that’s what I thought. Thanks. ---
**Author:** ![brenth](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/brenth/32/12893_2.png) [@brenth](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/brenth)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2023, 4:46pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/ability-to-schedule-recovery-weeks-more-frequently-2-on-1-off-feature-request/36402/20 "2023-02-10T16:46:52Z")
It definitely is not a simply move as it has a ripple effect throughout the plan. I do force it to work by manually moving workouts around. AIFTP still seems to adapt to it as well as the workouts still seem to adjust the PLs. The one thing that can get messed up is the Ramp Test timing.