100%.
The race starts with a decent descent, followed by a ~2 mile climb. After that, it is rolling with nothing too steep, outside of the 7% pitch around 10 miles in…but that is also relatively short.
TT lid all the way.
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Ya they’re pretty lax here. The only things you can’t do for road category for this group is have aero bars or disc wheel.
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Thanks! I’ll definitely go that route.
Short recap of King Of The Lake Attersee.
Superb event! And the location is very beautiful and scenic!
Had a goal to try to finish top 10 (excl. pros), but the legs did not show up unfortunately… After around 5km I lost my drink bottle. After about 18km I had to slow down a bit because the legs were tightening up too much already, even though I was holding the same target power as the one I held for the Almere TT end of March this year. Still passed the half way timing mark around the top 10, but right as I caught @CMeier (nice to meet you!) who started 1’ before me, I started fading badly.
In the end I finished P15/113 in my AG and 34th/673 overall incl. pros for an average of 46.5km/h (on only 291W, should have held 310 at least), but I will be back next year!
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Was nice to meet you, not so nice when you passed me 
(because up to that point it was only me passing others).
So next years goal is clear:
Up the Watts by 20 and go sub 1hour 
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Had a good time doing the hilly TT on my road bike, but made fatal errors that would have cost me placing in my category if I wasn’t the only one in it haha. 1/1 in mens 40-49. Learned the importance of pre-riding or at least driving the route beforehand. I psyched myself out of reading my bike computer and pulled a u-turn before starting the main climb until I saw other riders. Quickly turned around and got back to work. Later on I took the wrong turn on a turning circle since I was in tunnel vision mode which lead me into another climb (instead of a downhill) and my computer yelling at me that I was off-route. All-in I probably lost 5+min. Spent time re-passing people and finished in 44:53. Taking out 5min would have put in 3rd overall (3rd was 40:08). So definitely a lesson learned lol. Also, I probably would have been fine on my TT bike, but riding down 6-12% grades in the aero bars and hitting 50+ (I hit 49.5mph on my road bike) would have been pretty insane. I’m pretty sure I would have been faster with the TT bike even with the climbs
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Youve got to be in it to win it 
I should come over there, I’m in that age group and its one of the most competitive round here with folk often being on the podium overall and until a few years ago were winning overall too. Ive got no chance with being a very nervous descender. Even if I was a good descender I’d still have no chance. What qualifies for a hilly TT round here you are definitely faster on a TT bike 
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Had a pretty good bike leg on my local (3 min bike ride to the park :D) duathlon that I’ve been meaning to sign up to do for years but always had a conflict, and not to mention it involved running too :P. I was tied for second fastest bike leg, but a bit slower (like 32 and 40th for first and second runs, respectively). Came in 15/130 overall and 3/8 in 40-44 AG. I actually had my camera record the bike… and I was behind 2nd in my AG by 2 seconds… I think I may have cost myself that spot just with the camera (or when I had to fiddle with the mount because it twisted and was causing my aero bar to continuously press the button on my Edge 
).
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Hi 
from a lurker on this subject. Thanx for all the gear envy… & race envy too: not a lot of TT races where I am. 
Though I am starting to think that with my riding style TTs are more my jam than other kinds of racing. (I always seem to be playing leapfrog with hill-killers on audax rides.) Got a race on the calendar, doing the bike leg of an Olympic tri in early March with my sister & her husband, & I see my part as being not that different from a 25mi TT, except of course for the short transition runs bookending the effort. It’s all on a closed course. 
I’d love a proper TT bike but am not willing to afford one just yet. In the absence of that I’ve been dialling in a position on a road bike with clip-on aero bars. My crash last Wednesday broke one of the clamps on my last set & in a pinch so that I’d have something on the bike for an overnight audax on Saturday night, I bought a different set. Unfortunately the slight chicane shape of the skis required me to cock my wrists uncomfortably to grab the bars, to the point that it became painful after a couple of hours, & I ended up hanging onto the bars with only my pinkie fingers. I mused that the correct position for my hands was to grip something sticking out at rightangles from the ends of the skis. Enter bodge job. I investigated & found some MTB bar ends to install. Not quite the shape I was thinking, but they fit.
Initial impression from this morning’s workout is they work very well, certainly more comfy than without on the audax, just got to fine tune positioning a bit.
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Just a heads up if anyone is looking for newly released gear, Rudy Project now has the Wingdream available. I ordered last night with my USAT discount.
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Hi all,
question regarding angled pads/extensions and clip-ons. Is it possible without disadvantages to include angled spacers into the spacer stack of a clip-on aerobar (most likely Profile Design or Zipp Vuka)?
I’m building a TT bike (Cervelo P3, frame set) with focus on budget and adjustibility to experiment with positions from 20-40k TT to long distance triathlon.
Base bar + clip on would be cheap but angling the pads (aiming for 15-20°) might be a challenge: don’t want to lose reach by tilting the entire spacer stack (would that also compromise stability?)
Vuka wedges for clip-on exist but don’t seem to be available.
Profile Design and many UK TT shops offer generic wedges. I quite like the idea of the Wattshop adjustable angle spacers. Don’t know if any of these can just be included in a regular clip-on spacer stack (assuming compatible mounting hole spacing).
Profile Design Aeria Ultimate or similar seem to be state of the art these days, mount spacers/brackets directly onto the base bar, with ability to tilt the pads built-in. Just comparatively expensive for a “research” project.
Thanks for any insights!
Another, rather general brand/model question… I’m going to be looking to buy my first TT bike/frame for triathlons (not time trials) the next time they go on sale.
I’m 53, 173cm (5’8"), 102kg (225lbs), and a total beginner at this, currently riding a gravel bike on the road because I still need that more relaxed position.
Which brands and models of bikes are generally known to be better for people like me, who are looking to get into the tri-bike space but need a lot of adaptability or a less-aero position from their bike? Are there any?
I’m open to both full bikes and frames that I then build up.
I recommend an older Felt TT bike. The front can be easily adjusted up and down to accommodate an easy position with the adjustable stem. I have a 2012 or so Felt DA which came with one. It’s still pretty fast. 
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Happy New Year fellow TTrs. What’s everyone up for 2026?
Racing - personal plans have been difficult the last couple of years with needing time supporting family. Last year did a personal point to point 325km TT challenge. This year I’ve locked in a training plan for age group nationals this April. Only 16 weeks away and was injured Oct to now, but better to give it a shot than not. Am on the Trainerroad AI beta so I’m interested to see how I go.
Gear, bike - my budget Agron18 E117disc build will have a couple of updates. First is to replace the Archer shifting system with axs wireless blips and rear derailleur. Not sure that’ll be more aero, but time to change. Nationals has a hilly course 25km with about 413m (1355’) of climbing so probably still single speed 54t front but some larger cogs on the back. Also want to replace the basic aluminum Profile design base bar with something more aero.
Gear wheels - I design and build my own wheels. Rear disk is a modern shape similar to others which have a deep dish shape. Accepts a normal pump head for easy air pressure tuning. Am super happy with the latest prototype molds and should have a wheel ready soon for test. I can customize so I might do a super light build if the modeling for national suggests that’s worth it.
Gear clothing - time for an under garment and a skin suit upgrade this year. Already happy with my socks and shoe covers.
I’m uci category 2 (yup, I’m on the uci website). Who’s on that next to the most famous pro?? (I’m by Jan Mass from Cofidis, I believe he’s a strong domestique).
I have a long torso in relation to my leg length. If anyone has this sort of body shape and has tested, I’m keen to hear what you’ve learned. I’m certain my cd is higher that normal due to this and am wondering if there’s any suits or under garments for this scenario (I’m not aware there is but maybe someone has done custom). I’m averaging 43-45km/h and over that on a good training peak.
Gear helmet - on the older giro aerohead. Time to test some newer options. Maybe a large kayak (I mean new Giro) or Kask or Rudy Project to better go with large’ish shoulders.
Testing - I’ll be testing again this year, with a focus on doing testing on a local (2hrs away) outdoor 400m velodrome and testing different setups and different yaw. I want to pick my position for this Nationals based on the wind profile for the day. Earlier testing indicated some positions were better at higher yaw than others.
Ok, that’s a super long post. Lots of variables and training and testing different to come, plus I’m super excited about my new disk wheel.
What is everyone else up to for 2026?
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Welcome back. Focusing on TT makes sense, especially with races limited and plans changing. Your idea for a shared thread on plan structures and lessons learned is solid, there is a lot of value in seeing what actually worked for others. The 40k TT podcast series was early in the season, I think episodes in the mid 20s range, worth scrolling back through the archive.
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I’ve watched and listened to the TR TT vids many times! Definitely worth it for anyone getting into TTing and for regulars for some inspiration.
First testing of the season tomorrow. Hope to collect some good data. Planning A B testing, maybe a one off C test for fun. Testing spreadsheet with all my base test data is ready.
Tomorrows TR workoutintervals should work good for this test according to the feedback I’ve had from BBS where I do my my testing analysis.
This will be my first time testing on a velodrome (outdoor 400m hot mix).
I have always done 50 mile TTs and some 25!mile TTs
I have decided to only do 10 mile TTs for 2026 and 2027.
Any suggestions for changing training workouts?