# 2022 New Giant Release 12s Dura Ace and Ultegra: Spoiler or Misprint? **URL:** \ **Category:** Equipment\ **Tags:** bike\ **Created:** [July 20, 2021, 2:05am UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/2022-new-giant-release-12s-dura-ace-and-ultegra-spoiler-or-misprint/61078 "2021-07-20T02:05:21Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![noctildon](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/noctildon/32/12908_2.png) [@noctildon](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/noctildon)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2021, 2:05am UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/2022-new-giant-release-12s-dura-ace-and-ultegra-spoiler-or-misprint/61078/1 "2021-07-20T02:05:21Z")
A local bike shop in Taiwan has released some info about 2022 Giant bikes in their facebook page. And the screenshots reveal shimano new groupset will be 12 speed if they are not mistaken. [https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?vanity=giant.froging&set=a.4224121417644932&locale=zh\_TW&\_\_xts\_\_[0]=68.ARCW1rECXDlkEA6VW5wK04Tm4prZ-dtDLC-W2ZcnuCMsjkm\_EvROUHoYxAoFtWQRPBve8ZRjKR9ePCtLeTH6ey0fhIrXe2HqXB0hJsCZk-u39eP71aWU5o1fHRVBLyg4kb437KkF\_VKOtab44jXhN\_xyqiPXDd0qfPPHMiH5tQLOHKIvQQCnfjBnQ-kLxbNOsjN1w8JQTYKaog73ij4vhkaQTuXvDOW1JlY-Xj1Y9BZh8N97dmxBJxdVc8mBfAsvDGKHHLOKHfZyzkzbNPjVprKTtKrIMBLY\_9cCD6DZvuqyMOAcaDTdrA](https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?vanity=giant.froging&set=a.4224121417644932&locale=zh_TW& __xts__ %5B0%5D=68.ARCW1rECXDlkEA6VW5wK04Tm4prZ-dtDLC-W2ZcnuCMsjkm_EvROUHoYxAoFtWQRPBve8ZRjKR9ePCtLeTH6ey0fhIrXe2HqXB0hJsCZk-u39eP71aWU5o1fHRVBLyg4kb437KkF_VKOtab44jXhN_xyqiPXDd0qfPPHMiH5tQLOHKIvQQCnfjBnQ-kLxbNOsjN1w8JQTYKaog73ij4vhkaQTuXvDOW1JlY-Xj1Y9BZh8N97dmxBJxdVc8mBfAsvDGKHHLOKHfZyzkzbNPjVprKTtKrIMBLY_9cCD6DZvuqyMOAcaDTdrA) ![22giant - Copy](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/original/3X/f/3/f309d0a68022870c7b19eeaace04dd3f9ffd5877.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![mcneese.chad](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/mcneese.chad/32/15056_2.png) [@mcneese.chad](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/mcneese.chad)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2021, 2:20am UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/2022-new-giant-release-12s-dura-ace-and-ultegra-spoiler-or-misprint/61078/2 "2021-07-20T02:20:13Z")
Yeah, 12s on DA at least, and more covered here. > [@Shimano Dura Ace 9200 \[speculation\]](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/shimano-dura-ace-9200-speculation/54221/166): > ---
**Author:** ![OreoCookie](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/oreocookie/32/8298_2.png) [@OreoCookie](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/OreoCookie)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2021, 2:24am UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/2022-new-giant-release-12s-dura-ace-and-ultegra-spoiler-or-misprint/61078/3 "2021-07-20T02:24:09Z")
> [@noctildon](#): > > A local bike shop in Taiwan has released some info about 2022 Giant bikes in their facebook page. And the screenshots reveal shimano new groupset will be 12 speed if they are not mistaken. The new 12-speed DuraAce groupset is the worst kept secret in the industry. Some of the “leaks” aren’t all that accidental, I’m sure, since Shimano is quite behind when it comes to 12-speed drop bar group sets. Even on the MTB side, I think their Di2 stuff is still 11 speed, too. ---
**Author:** ![KickrLin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/kickrlin/32/15760_2.png) [@KickrLin](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/KickrLin)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2021, 2:40am UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/2022-new-giant-release-12s-dura-ace-and-ultegra-spoiler-or-misprint/61078/4 "2021-07-20T02:40:53Z")
> [@noctildon](#): > > A local bike shop If local, give them a call and ask. I am in Taipei, but that shop is on the other side of town and far from me (~10km) 😄. Are you also in Taipei? ---
**Author:** ![Power13](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/power13/32/92171_2.png) [@Power13](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/Power13)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2021, 3:23am UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/2022-new-giant-release-12s-dura-ace-and-ultegra-spoiler-or-misprint/61078/5 "2021-07-20T03:23:57Z")
Are we not gonna talk about how ugly and poorly set-up that bike is? From the horrible bar / brifter transition, the bulbous stem and the seat height that is too tall for the Jolly Green Giant….holy hell, that looks absolutely awful!!! ---
**Author:** ![KickrLin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/kickrlin/32/15760_2.png) [@KickrLin](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/KickrLin)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2021, 3:36am UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/2022-new-giant-release-12s-dura-ace-and-ultegra-spoiler-or-misprint/61078/6 "2021-07-20T03:36:40Z")
🤣 😂 🤣 I noticed the same, but what caught my eye was what appears to be the removal of valve stems via photoshop 🤷‍♂️ ---
**Author:** ![Pottery](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/pottery/32/83481_2.png) [@Pottery](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/Pottery)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2021, 4:27am UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/2022-new-giant-release-12s-dura-ace-and-ultegra-spoiler-or-misprint/61078/7 "2021-07-20T04:27:39Z")
Isn’t the OP pic weird though? Shimano cranks and levers, sram wireless mechs and even a flat top looking chain? ---
**Author:** ![RoadMilitia82](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/roadmilitia82/32/12895_2.png) [@RoadMilitia82](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/RoadMilitia82)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2021, 4:47am UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/2022-new-giant-release-12s-dura-ace-and-ultegra-spoiler-or-misprint/61078/8 "2021-07-20T04:47:51Z")
Hard to tell looking at the chain wether it’s a flat top because the chain wraps around the big chain ring but then doesn’t line up with the rest of the chain. Terrible photoshop job. The derailleurs look an awful lot like Sram. ---
**Author:** ![splash](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ac8455/32.png) [@splash](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/splash)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2021, 6:31am UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/2022-new-giant-release-12s-dura-ace-and-ultegra-spoiler-or-misprint/61078/9 "2021-07-20T06:31:10Z")
Think they didn’t want to cut the seatpost for the pic. Also looks like there’s no bar tape. > [@RoadMilitia82](#): > > the chain wraps around the big chain ring but then doesn’t line up with the rest of the chain. This is the best bit! 😂 ---
**Author:** ![jonas\_claes](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/jonas_claes/32/79672_2.png) [@jonas\_claes](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/jonas_claes)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2021, 4:40pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/2022-new-giant-release-12s-dura-ace-and-ultegra-spoiler-or-misprint/61078/10 "2021-08-07T16:40:35Z")
[https://www.cube.eu/2022/bikes/road/road-race/agree/cube-agree-c62-race-fadingbluencarbon/](https://www.cube.eu/2022/bikes/road/road-race/agree/cube-agree-c62-race-fadingbluencarbon/) New ultegra 12speed? Launch end of the month? ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/original/3X/9/c/9ca459f8198f2c9b3bb2db975eb474fb80125264.jpeg) ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/original/3X/d/e/de13e25781262ff45ada3cbfb64582fdef18fe05.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Kasper\_L](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/kasper_l/32/57864_2.png) [@Kasper\_L](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/Kasper_L)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2021, 5:12pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/2022-new-giant-release-12s-dura-ace-and-ultegra-spoiler-or-misprint/61078/11 "2021-08-13T17:12:59Z")
I Saw this aswell, and wondered the same! In my country (Denmark) there is a SRP: 30.599dkk (euro: 4115). Soooo either mechanical Ultegra? Or are they finally making a 105di2 group perhaps?? They should IMO… As a respons to sram rival AXS. But Perhaps just hopeful wishes on my own part 😛 ---
**Author:** ![cwiggum](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/cwiggum/32/17426_2.png) [@cwiggum](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/cwiggum)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2021, 8:10pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/2022-new-giant-release-12s-dura-ace-and-ultegra-spoiler-or-misprint/61078/12 "2021-08-13T20:10:57Z")
> [@Power13](#): > > seat height that is too tall for the Jolly Green Giant….holy hell, that looks absolutely awfu That’s called being tall. It is awful for this sport. 🤣 ---
**Author:** ![noctildon](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/noctildon/32/12908_2.png) [@noctildon](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/noctildon)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2021, 8:46pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/2022-new-giant-release-12s-dura-ace-and-ultegra-spoiler-or-misprint/61078/14 "2021-08-13T20:46:37Z")
This is my first time hearing a cyclist saying 10km is “far” 🤣 ---
**Author:** ![Power13](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/power13/32/92171_2.png) [@Power13](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/Power13)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2021, 9:06pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/2022-new-giant-release-12s-dura-ace-and-ultegra-spoiler-or-misprint/61078/15 "2021-08-13T21:06:06Z")
> [@noctildon](#): > > Are you new to cycling? I don’t expect any experienced rider would ask such a silly question. Apparently it’s factory setting, which can always be modified after purchase. LOL…uh, no, I’m not new to cycling. Been riding for 30+ years and spent over 10 years in the bike industry doing product development work. I spent a fair amount of that time setting up bikes for catalog shoots…and rule #1 of a good catalog shot is to show the bike in a “real world”, realistic configuration. You don’t have a stack of spacers under a stem and say “hey, it can be modified after purchase”…same thing for an integrated seatpost. So I kinda know what I am talking about…but thanks for your input. ---
**Author:** ![mcneese.chad](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/mcneese.chad/32/15056_2.png) [@mcneese.chad](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/mcneese.chad)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2021, 9:11pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/2022-new-giant-release-12s-dura-ace-and-ultegra-spoiler-or-misprint/61078/16 "2021-08-13T21:11:57Z")
Rookie 😉 ---
**Author:** ![evil0ne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e19adc/32.png) [@evil0ne](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/evil0ne)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2021, 5:01am UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/2022-new-giant-release-12s-dura-ace-and-ultegra-spoiler-or-misprint/61078/17 "2021-08-24T05:01:51Z")
> [@Power13](#): > > I spent a fair amount of that time setting up bikes for catalog shoots…and rule #1 of a good catalog shot is to show the bike in a “real world”, realistic configuration. You don’t have a stack of spacers under a stem and say “hey, it can be modified after purchase”…same thing for an integrated seatpost. While that sounds nice, that’s not how Giant does it. > **[Defy Advanced SL 1 (2018) | bike | Giant Bicycles US](https://www.giant-bicycles.com/us/defy-advanced-sl-1-2018)** > > There is no better road machine for long, demanding days in the saddle. The superlight frameset is handcrafted with Giant’s pro-level Advanced SL composite and engineered with endurance geometry. Its innovative technolo... ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/original/3X/a/6/a6f65bb67f6b8b3a0ef801f1fa9a9b7c43519034.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![kevistraining](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/kevistraining/32/171237_2.png) [@kevistraining](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/kevistraining)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2021, 9:52am UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/2022-new-giant-release-12s-dura-ace-and-ultegra-spoiler-or-misprint/61078/18 "2021-08-24T09:52:22Z")
> [@evil0ne](#): > > While that sounds nice, that’s not how Giant does it. It is a bit inconsistent that they cut down (or photoshop) the steerer tube but leave the seat post at full length 🤷‍♂️ I suppose leaving the seat tube at full length does lay it bare and say “look - you are going to have to take a hacksaw to this before you ride it” Regardless, I’m pretty sure @Power13’s initial statement was a little tongue in cheek. ---
**Author:** ![Power13](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/power13/32/92171_2.png) [@Power13](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/Power13)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2021, 12:26pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/2022-new-giant-release-12s-dura-ace-and-ultegra-spoiler-or-misprint/61078/19 "2021-08-24T12:26:02Z")
> [@kevistraining](#): > > Regardless, I’m pretty sure @Power13’s initial statement was a little tongue in cheek Thank you for getting it. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![darrellcraig](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/darrellcraig/32/7721_2.png) [@darrellcraig](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/darrellcraig)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2021, 5:14pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/2022-new-giant-release-12s-dura-ace-and-ultegra-spoiler-or-misprint/61078/21 "2021-09-18T17:14:42Z")
Welcome to the community, @Ivan_Boesky ! ---
**Author:** ![Pbase](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/pbase/32/969_2.png) [@Pbase](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/Pbase)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2021, 10:10pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/2022-new-giant-release-12s-dura-ace-and-ultegra-spoiler-or-misprint/61078/22 "2021-09-18T22:10:17Z")
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