# $145 chain lube **URL:** \ **Category:** Equipment\ **Created:** [June 18, 2020, 4:57pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/145-chain-lube/38050 "2020-06-18T16:57:46Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![alexstenerson](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/alexstenerson/32/5407_2.png) [@alexstenerson](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/alexstenerson)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2020, 4:57pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/145-chain-lube/38050/1 "2020-06-18T16:57:46Z")
Alright, which one of you are going for these marginal gains?! ![Screenshot_20200618-115625](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/original/3X/7/6/76bb410b7c154cd37a369427541427fa403dab5a.jpeg) ![Screenshot_20200618-115636](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/original/3X/7/5/75ba60392809ef2839a1df134d22efc76b4c3c0f.png) ---
**Author:** ![cjschmalz1](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/cjschmalz1/32/7725_2.png) [@cjschmalz1](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/cjschmalz1)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2020, 5:01pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/145-chain-lube/38050/2 "2020-06-18T17:01:31Z")
Dave Rome (Cyclingtips), has said that he’s going to work with FrictionFacts to test it and see how it stacks up. ---
**Author:** ![Mike\_M](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/mike_m/32/166706_2.png) [@Mike\_M](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/Mike_M)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2020, 5:15pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/145-chain-lube/38050/4 "2020-06-18T17:15:16Z")
Wow - I would use 10 year old lawn mower oil before springing for a $146 4.7oz bottle of that doing math - $31.06 an ounce is ridiculous ---
**Author:** ![MI-XC](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/mi-xc/32/12993_2.png) [@MI-XC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/MI-XC)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2020, 5:19pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/145-chain-lube/38050/5 "2020-06-18T17:19:39Z")
Just in time for Father’s Day! ---
**Author:** ![JustinDoesTriathlon](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/justindoestriathlon/32/58536_2.png) [@JustinDoesTriathlon](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/JustinDoesTriathlon)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2020, 5:35pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/145-chain-lube/38050/6 "2020-06-18T17:35:52Z")
With the BIG OLE ASTERISK that I’ll never buy this myself… _Assuming it provides the benefits it claims_, $145/7W (middle of the claimed range) is much lower $$$/watts than people spend upgrading other things. Just food for thought. But yes, it’s hilariously expensive and it’ll never be on my buy list. ---
**Author:** ![ljuvlig-bawdy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/ljuvlig-bawdy/32/114749_2.png) [@ljuvlig-bawdy](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/ljuvlig-bawdy)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2020, 5:47pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/145-chain-lube/38050/7 "2020-06-18T17:47:28Z")
> [@cjschmalz1](#): > > Dave Rome (Cyclingtips), has said that he’s going to work with FrictionFacts to test it and see how it stacks up. And then write a 60,000 word dissertation on his thoughts! ---
**Author:** ![Joelrivera](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/joelrivera/32/145557_2.png) [@Joelrivera](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/Joelrivera)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2020, 5:52pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/145-chain-lube/38050/8 "2020-06-18T17:52:20Z")
The Rapha of lubes! ---
**Author:** ![Michael\_Tate](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/michael_tate/32/76007_2.png) [@Michael\_Tate](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/Michael_Tate)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2020, 6:23pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/145-chain-lube/38050/9 "2020-06-18T18:23:33Z")
I’d love to know what they mean by 3-10W savings over “other lubes.” Does that mean vs. WD40? Or is that savings over waxing your chain? But if I could actually save a couple Watts on raceday vs waxing for an A race with something like this, I’d bite. ---
**Author:** ![splash](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ac8455/32.png) [@splash](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/splash)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2020, 6:46pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/145-chain-lube/38050/10 "2020-06-18T18:46:01Z")
Highly doubt that liquid wax + graphene particles beats Molten Speed Wax with molybdenium particles, applied as a hot wax. I’d buy 10 chains for the price of a bottle if this… ---
**Author:** ![JS84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e19adc/32.png) [@JS84](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/JS84)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2020, 7:47pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/145-chain-lube/38050/11 "2020-06-18T19:47:39Z")
I’m actually curious about some independent testing on this. The number of chains and the amount of time I spend waxing chains could negate the high initial price for the lube itself. ---
**Author:** ![CamKimner](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/camkimner/32/42714_2.png) [@CamKimner](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/CamKimner)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2020, 8:58pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/145-chain-lube/38050/12 "2020-06-18T20:58:55Z")
They do say it lasts 1800km for one application. I’d at least be curious km per bottle compared to other lubes. Still ridiculous though. ---
**Author:** ![splash](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ac8455/32.png) [@splash](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/splash)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2020, 9:04pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/145-chain-lube/38050/13 "2020-06-18T21:04:23Z")
Where, indoors? Really can’t believe that can be true. If it was, I’d buy it 😂 ---
**Author:** ![CamKimner](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/camkimner/32/42714_2.png) [@CamKimner](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/CamKimner)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2020, 9:08pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/145-chain-lube/38050/14 "2020-06-18T21:08:05Z")
I’d assume that’s bone dry ideal conditions with no contaminants. I also just saw that they have a 14 ml bottle for $15 if anyone wants to test it out. ---
**Author:** ![alexstenerson](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/alexstenerson/32/5407_2.png) [@alexstenerson](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/alexstenerson)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2020, 11:13pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/145-chain-lube/38050/15 "2020-06-18T23:13:09Z")
I’m not good with ml sizing. Would that basically be one application? ---
**Author:** ![Tezz](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/tezz/32/24009_2.png) [@Tezz](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/Tezz)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2020, 11:28pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/145-chain-lube/38050/16 "2020-06-18T23:28:22Z")
Why not buy from the king of marginal gains **Josh Poertner** and get his newly released lube. It’s pricey too…but he knows his stuff [https://silca.cc/products/silca-super-secret-chain-lube](https://silca.cc/products/silca-super-secret-chain-lube) ---
**Author:** ![Toby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@Toby](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/Toby)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2020, 11:46pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/145-chain-lube/38050/17 "2020-06-18T23:46:11Z")
Actually, if their tests are correct I’m very happy with my current choice (Squirt → 1-2W difference) and might try Mucoff Nano in the future… ![AbsoluteBlack](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/original/3X/b/9/b9edb0bf928b7aec741eccd864d76af9f4bbd3d6.jpeg) But cool stuff. I’m all in for innovation and hope their product becomes a success. I appreciate their testing and providing the results. Long lasting and efficient sounds really great. For the price it’s not for me. ---
**Author:** ![CamKimner](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/camkimner/32/42714_2.png) [@CamKimner](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/CamKimner)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2020, 12:02am UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/145-chain-lube/38050/18 "2020-06-19T00:02:28Z")
Looks like it ---
**Author:** ![mcalista](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/mcalista/32/92377_2.png) [@mcalista](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/mcalista)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2020, 1:03am UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/145-chain-lube/38050/19 "2020-06-20T01:03:09Z")
> [@ljuvlig-bawdy](#): > > > [@cjschmalz1](#): > > > > Dave Rome (Cyclingtips), has said that he’s going to work with FrictionFacts to test it and see how it stacks up. > > And then write a 60,000 word dissertation on his thoughts! So, just the Executive Summary then. 😀 ---
**Author:** ![Un-QuittingBikes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/bb73d2/32.png) [@Un-QuittingBikes](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/Un-QuittingBikes)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2020, 1:46am UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/145-chain-lube/38050/20 "2020-06-20T01:46:56Z")
> [@iamholland](#): > > LOL, hard pass. Yup. I’d rather eat a bucket of Popeye’s and slather the leftover grease on the chain. Then I’m fueled AND my chain is lubed. Killing two stones with one bird. ---
**Author:** ![Un-QuittingBikes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/bb73d2/32.png) [@Un-QuittingBikes](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/Un-QuittingBikes)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2020, 1:53am UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/145-chain-lube/38050/21 "2020-06-20T01:53:08Z")
> [@splash](#): > > Highly doubt that liquid wax + graphene particles beats Molten Speed Wax with molybdenium particles, applied as a hot wax. Same. Moly is so slippery that it’s often NOT recommended in ball bearing greases because it causes the balls to skid rather than roll. Works great for chains and bushings though. [Next page](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/145-chain-lube/38050.md?page=2)